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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Or at least development cheerleaders?

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    Lost User
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    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    Or at least development cheerleaders?

    We call them interns.

    Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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    • C chriselst

      We do have a big, open stairway but most of the staff scuttle up and down the fire escape in the centre of the building for some reason. It retains farts for days. This is a stairway[^] (third picture).

      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      No; that won't work for me. When I was in college I worked in a place that had been a stately old house -- it even had narrow servants' stairways and all. It had a curved main stairway and carrying heavy equipment (LasetJet III, etc.) was problematic. Nowadays I'd just get dizzy going around the curves.

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      • C chriselst

        What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

        Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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        Tim Carmichael
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        When I started, we had a coffee pot: regular or decaf - simple. Now, we have a Keurig. Bring back the coffee pot.. longer brew time on a per unit brew basis, but no lineup waiting for a cup to brew, heat the water, etc. But, I'm happy to have free coffee either way.

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        • C chriselst

          What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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          Amarnath S
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          A supply of South Indian filter coffee, instead of some exotic foreign flavour. Especially, since my workplace is in Southern India.

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          • C chriselst

            What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

            Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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            Gary Wheeler
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            Realistic: Move my desk from its current location (middle of a 60-cube farm) to a lab, along with the rest of my group. It would be nice to have peace and quiet. Purchasing is next to our current location in the middle 40 acres, and they're always on the phone. Idealistic: Having software engineering concerns and priorities given the same credence as mechanical, electrical, and chemical engineering. When you work for a hardware company, software is always free, quick, and easy. "Can't you just add a popup?" is everyone's favorite solution to every problem :mad:. It comes down to a simple matter of respect, which we don't get.

            Software Zen: delete this;

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              A bright, open, inviting stairway rather than the dark, cramped, hidden one we have now.

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              Gary Wheeler
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              We have The Spiral Staircase of Death. It's the shortest route from the downstairs cafeteria to the engineering wing second floor. It's also an easy way to die, if you get more than one person on it at a time (hence the name).

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                Hanging space for cycling gear to dry out during the day

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                Gary Wheeler
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                I leave mine hanging up in the locker room. Unfortunately there isn't any air circulation, so it's still damp when I ride home X| .

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • G Gary Wheeler

                  Realistic: Move my desk from its current location (middle of a 60-cube farm) to a lab, along with the rest of my group. It would be nice to have peace and quiet. Purchasing is next to our current location in the middle 40 acres, and they're always on the phone. Idealistic: Having software engineering concerns and priorities given the same credence as mechanical, electrical, and chemical engineering. When you work for a hardware company, software is always free, quick, and easy. "Can't you just add a popup?" is everyone's favorite solution to every problem :mad:. It comes down to a simple matter of respect, which we don't get.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  jeron1
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                  Gary Wheeler wrote:

                  "Can't you just add a popup?"

                  :laugh: :laugh: :) :) :| :| :( :( :(( :(( It's amazing how the software writes itself!

                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                    "Can't you just add a popup?"

                    :laugh: :laugh: :) :) :| :| :( :( :(( :(( It's amazing how the software writes itself!

                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    Unfortunately I'm not kidding. I've got a well-rehearsed temper tantrum I throw whenever some hardware moron suggests I do that to solve their problem, at least once a month. We build commercial ink-jet printers. We can move paper at up to 17 feet per second. I throw up a message box, by the time the operator notices it, we've printed a mile or two of unusable crap.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • C chriselst

                      What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                      Elimination of personal cell phones. I'd gladly give mine up for 8 hours a day! If relatives/friends had to call my work number (mostly complaining or needing something) they probably wouldn't bother! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: It would also reduce the number of times I have to repeat myself due to a text message/email/phone call that interrupted a conversation! 'Sorry, what was that middle thing?' On a related note, I was told that it's rude to keep talking when the other person is obviously distracted by their phone. :confused:

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                        Unfortunately I'm not kidding. I've got a well-rehearsed temper tantrum I throw whenever some hardware moron suggests I do that to solve their problem, at least once a month. We build commercial ink-jet printers. We can move paper at up to 17 feet per second. I throw up a message box, by the time the operator notices it, we've printed a mile or two of unusable crap.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        jeron1
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                        Gary Wheeler wrote:

                        Unfortunately I'm not kidding

                        I know and can sympathize. We were developing a mostly embedded system with 'some' portions being relagated to being apps on a PC. The phrase "jeez, can't we just make that a PC app?", became too frequent, very quickly we ended up with man years of development time, which was a complete surprise to all, except us. Our usual response of "you know, this will take a good bit of development time to complete" fell largely on deaf ears.

                        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                        • K kmoorevs

                          Elimination of personal cell phones. I'd gladly give mine up for 8 hours a day! If relatives/friends had to call my work number (mostly complaining or needing something) they probably wouldn't bother! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: It would also reduce the number of times I have to repeat myself due to a text message/email/phone call that interrupted a conversation! 'Sorry, what was that middle thing?' On a related note, I was told that it's rude to keep talking when the other person is obviously distracted by their phone. :confused:

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                          jeron1
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                          kmoorevs wrote:

                          Elimination of personal cell phones.

                          Agreed!

                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                          • 9 9082365

                            Personal slaves?

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            I have them but apparently they would rather be called employees.

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                              What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                              Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                              Chris Losinger
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                              move it 31 miles to the south-west of its current location

                              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                              • G Gary Wheeler

                                We have The Spiral Staircase of Death. It's the shortest route from the downstairs cafeteria to the engineering wing second floor. It's also an easy way to die, if you get more than one person on it at a time (hence the name).

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                And a fire pole to go the other way? :-D

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  And a fire pole to go the other way? :-D

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  Sadly, no fire pole. The closest thing to that is the gate in railing of the catwalk over the manufacturing area. It's used to lift equipment from the second floor of the engineering wing down to the first floor of manufacturing. You could jump, but the landing would be a bit harsh.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  • C chriselst

                                    What would be the one, reasonable, change that could be made to your place of work to make it better? Particularly looking forward to Griff's response to this? I've asked the question, but don't have a ready answer for myself.

                                    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                    1. Closed space 2. Brains for the management

                                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                                    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                      Unfortunately I'm not kidding

                                      I know and can sympathize. We were developing a mostly embedded system with 'some' portions being relagated to being apps on a PC. The phrase "jeez, can't we just make that a PC app?", became too frequent, very quickly we ended up with man years of development time, which was a complete surprise to all, except us. Our usual response of "you know, this will take a good bit of development time to complete" fell largely on deaf ears.

                                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                      Gary Wheeler
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                                      The secret story behind our current product's code name "Delta" goes something like this: The hardware's code name was that of a certain large, well-known river in North America. Our software provides overall control of the hardware. Given the priorities and the relative importance of the hardware over the software, we're the last ones to know anything new, and the last ones to finish. Hence, the code name "Delta" for our software. It also fits because we get to deal with all of the sh!t that comes down the river.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        1. Closed space 2. Brains for the management

                                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                        jeron1
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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                        2. Brains for the management

                                        C'mon now, he asked for something reasonable!

                                        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                          2. Brains for the management

                                          C'mon now, he asked for something reasonable!

                                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                          He also asked for one! So I added a second...Everyone have dreams that can't come true...

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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