Well aren't you just high and mighty just like Stack overflow!
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
I agree that the question (it still can be found!) is understandable and the immediate problem with the code is obvious. That being said, a rant such as this is not helpful. (Although venting can make you feel better! Just delete it after typing it instead of posting it.) The tone here is not likely to encourage people to take you seriously, or care that you're frustrated. As Richard said, you could have asked for the question to be "resurrected". This option is not very well known. I seem to recall seeing the issue of closing questions that already have solutions as having come up before in the Site Bugs / Suggestions forum[^]. If you bring it up there again, tactfully, the discussion might lead to a solution you can be happy with, or at least an explanation of "why not". Code Project is a great resource! Don't give up due to one frustrating experience. Wherever humans and/or computers are involved, things will not be perfect!
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
I agree, I never knew how many were closed until I started replying to some only to realize minutes later that the question was removed. I do believe that some are deservedly removed mostly the 'Gimme Code' variety, but some should not. I think some people get a bit trigger happy sometimes. However this statement
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has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood
could apply to many questions.
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
You right about that question and about to be pissed-off about to closing it... However to run away will leave you with no options SO is - maybe - too deep into it already, CP will be if such you will not change it... Think about to change it instead of running away... (After all, you answered to this point 4 question, and only one closed, so you have 75% pure success...)
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
I wish you hadn't met this, but...you are preaching to the converted as far as I am concerned. I've brought it up several times in Bugs'n'Sugs because it happens far too often. I don't believe that a question with an answer should be closed at all, unless it's spam or abusive. And yes, it is rude, arrogant, and selfish. :sigh:
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
I think your rant is justified. +24
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Why not just go to http://www.codeproject.com/suggestions.aspx[^] and ask nicely for it to be re-opened?
Why should they have to, I think is the real point. I agree with the OP, and I share in their frustration.
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
Of course that list starts with SAK.. Yes a common thing across all places I've noticed is that sometimes if the Big Guys (though many are not like that) don't understand something, they'll blame the question instead of their own lack of knowledge in that area.
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Why should they have to, I think is the real point. I agree with the OP, and I share in their frustration.
He is the one who wants the question re-instated, and if Chris and the team agree then they will fix it. Yes, I know some questions get closed for rather questionable reasons, but that is the problem with an open forum like this. It's a bit like downvoting, it happens, live with it.
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
On Stack Overflow you have to see Microsoft as always being right, it's like a religion to them and that is why i now post my programs here and steer clear of S/O Others have tweeted they feel the same but it seem that Chris only has ears for MS as if they own him or something. There loss is someone else's gain!
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On Stack Overflow you have to see Microsoft as always being right, it's like a religion to them and that is why i now post my programs here and steer clear of S/O Others have tweeted they feel the same but it seem that Chris only has ears for MS as if they own him or something. There loss is someone else's gain!
Dr Gadgit wrote:
but it seem that Chris only has ears for MS as if they own him or something.
I'm pretty sure this will have been the stupidest thing I will read today.
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Dr Gadgit wrote:
but it seem that Chris only has ears for MS as if they own him or something.
I'm pretty sure this will have been the stupidest thing I will read today.
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:thumbsup:
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I wish you hadn't met this, but...you are preaching to the converted as far as I am concerned. I've brought it up several times in Bugs'n'Sugs because it happens far too often. I don't believe that a question with an answer should be closed at all, unless it's spam or abusive. And yes, it is rude, arrogant, and selfish. :sigh:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
And yes, it is rude, arrogant, and selfish
To mark something as unclear? :omg: :wtf: :wtf: Let's all realize it is possible they did not see the solution. It's a long enough question that it's possible someone didn't realize a solution was there before marking it unclear.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
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I think your rant is justified. +24
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
And yes, it is rude, arrogant, and selfish
To mark something as unclear? :omg: :wtf: :wtf: Let's all realize it is possible they did not see the solution. It's a long enough question that it's possible someone didn't realize a solution was there before marking it unclear.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Difficult though - when you spend time testing and writing a solution, post it, get a request for some clarification from the OP and go back to find that The Usual Suspects have closed the question since he replied. Meaning you have to leave him in limbo because you can't reply to him at all...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Difficult though - when you spend time testing and writing a solution, post it, get a request for some clarification from the OP and go back to find that The Usual Suspects have closed the question since he replied. Meaning you have to leave him in limbo because you can't reply to him at all...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
have closed the question since he replied.
I agree. It happens quite often when get a reply to a comment and the question has since been closed. I do agree that if there is a solution the question should always remain open. Just don't count anymore unclear posts beyond the 3 anyway and leave it open. However, it feels like 90% of QA questions are unclear so I have little sympathy for them getting closed. Hopefully the OP reads our comments before it gets closed and realizes they need to be more clear. My favorite is when you ask for clarification and they copy and paste the original "question" as if that clears things up. :laugh: :laugh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I've been on here for years, mostly recreationally. So someone asks a legitimate question this morning, and I actually saw the flaw so I answered it. Three of you high and mighty "power users" closed the question because
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Closed because the post is not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood..
I understood it, I read his code example, and my answer existed before you closed it. I took the time and effort to write it as a code block, and even test the code locally before submitting. What was the point of closing a question with a working answer? As of this moment, the user with the problem can't see my answer, you deleted my well formed and working answer for what reason? I solved his problem but you're hiding it from him! Don't you feel powerful - this is what I hated about Stack Overflow - you try to help but the high and mighty power users crap all over you, and it's obvious that they didn't read the question. I'm talking to you
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Reported by Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov, Maciej Los, digimanus on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:36pm
What is wrong with you? Why are you so selfish and ARROGANT? I'm logging out. Try to help and you get crapped on. Nice system you got here, Chris.
I know nothing about your particular post, but you are right on about Stack Overflow. Their formula seems to be: 1: incoming new question 2: as quickly as possible, close it and mark it off topic This helps no one and drives people (like me) away. If it is spam like "cheap nike shoes" then yes, delete it. When my kids ask something in a less than perfect way, I try to figure out what they mean and answer it - I don't say "you are off topic" and walk away.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
have closed the question since he replied.
I agree. It happens quite often when get a reply to a comment and the question has since been closed. I do agree that if there is a solution the question should always remain open. Just don't count anymore unclear posts beyond the 3 anyway and leave it open. However, it feels like 90% of QA questions are unclear so I have little sympathy for them getting closed. Hopefully the OP reads our comments before it gets closed and realizes they need to be more clear. My favorite is when you ask for clarification and they copy and paste the original "question" as if that clears things up. :laugh: :laugh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Hmm. I just checked the question I think he means: Cope and paste listview more advanced[^] and it's interesting but that also has an answer from SAK - who is listed as one of the people closing it as "not clear, or is incomplete and has not been phrased in a way that allows it to be fully understood" - according to his answers list. For some reason, that leaves a nasty taste in my mouth...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
