Why, Microsoft? Why?
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Most of us just use "password" for the password for all accounts, soooooo - who needs a password backup? ;P
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OK - it's not hardware. I've changed HDD to a spare I used for test restores before the Win10 "upgrade" and it boots Win7 with full networking(I may have mentioned that I like backups before?). So it's the latest MS Win10 update that has b*gg*r*d my system. And gawd, but I'd forgotten just how pretty Win7 was, how "together", how seamless. But...Windows 10 it must be, I guess. So I'll download the latest Win10 ISO on this, and reinstall for a clean setup on a third HDD. Maybe that'll "just work"...
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OriginalGriff wrote:
how "together", how seamless
It's interesting, isn't it? I get what they tried to do, but they do need to bring things back completely under a single paradigm. And this does *not* mean bringing them all under a dumbed-down paradigm. The number of times I have to hunt down the network property dialog to fix things that the lame-as Network settings page just can't handle drives me nuts.
cheers Chris Maunder
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OriginalGriff wrote:
how "together", how seamless
It's interesting, isn't it? I get what they tried to do, but they do need to bring things back completely under a single paradigm. And this does *not* mean bringing them all under a dumbed-down paradigm. The number of times I have to hunt down the network property dialog to fix things that the lame-as Network settings page just can't handle drives me nuts.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
It's interesting, isn't it?
I do tend to agree with you about the settings screens being terrible - but it's just a matter of using them more to get used to them I think (aside from the obvious missing functionality, of course!) I am stuck with Windows 7 at work and I must admit, I find the UI very outdated in general and don't find it a pleasant experience to use anymore, but I do like feeling like a power-user still: able to actually control my own windows experience. Dumbed-down would great if it could just sort everything out without me thinking about it. Windows X.13?
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From Windows 10 November update: FAQ[^]... 1. "Windows 10 is a service" - I think you should install an OS first to run a service... 2. "If it’s been less than 31 days since you upgraded to Windows 10, you won’t get the November update right away; this will allow you to go back to your previous version of Windows" - obviously there is no going-back after this update. Don't even dream about 7...
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I am sooooo glad I made a full system backup before allowing Windows 10 to do its wicked work. Having suffered the loss of my favourite applications because Win 10 spits them out and having suffered maxed out SSDs while updates are being installed while I am trying to get some work done, I blew Windows 10 away and reinstalled Windows 7 from the backup. I'm happy.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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I like to make it difficult, I use a capital p!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
Until MS completely turns its stance and gets back to WinXP/Win7 ways of developing OS or there won't be any feasable way of running new software over Win7 I won't change - exactly as I did for 98 first and XP then, jumping over 2k and Vista. The first one broke compatibility to every game and driver I had (no, I won't buy new hardware for an OS), the second... should I say? I jumped over Win8 and I hope to avoid 10. I'll be changing hardware soo though, and laptops are always one compatibility hell. I hope I won't be forced to install a "cured" Win7 ISO but I'm ready to do that if I must.
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Why password of course...
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
I got network - but VPN was totally screwed. I spent hours trying to make it work, but in the end the only thing that worked was to 'Refresh' aka reset Win10 to blank slate and reinstall all my apps.
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It's not that bad - if you think of it as Win 8 SP2. But then being "better than Win 8" isn't exactly much of a milestone. It works, normally. And provided you don't want to do anything complicated (like tell it what to actually do) the it's OK, if ugly. But as soon as anything goes wrong it turns back into Win8.0 with DOS 2 error messages and "ease of use". :sigh: Trouble is that I support a few people, and if I don't run it then I can't check what they are saying and have to drive over to see them and work it out there.
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Have you tried reinstalling from scratch/iso? I had a problem with the windows 10 upgrade once and downloaded the ISO at a relatives to be sure. I was right and it was a problem with the upgrade. P.S. As far as getting to IP settings did you right click the connection->network and sharing center? which shows a interface like the windows 7 one? I prefer that compared to the settings app non-sense. You have to use settings app for certain settings while most of the important ones are in network and sharing center.
jeffery
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Have you tried reinstalling from scratch/iso? I had a problem with the windows 10 upgrade once and downloaded the ISO at a relatives to be sure. I was right and it was a problem with the upgrade. P.S. As far as getting to IP settings did you right click the connection->network and sharing center? which shows a interface like the windows 7 one? I prefer that compared to the settings app non-sense. You have to use settings app for certain settings while most of the important ones are in network and sharing center.
jeffery
In addition, the new visual studio ISO is so big that you might corrupt windows if you install incorrectly (at minimum a messed up registry and reinstall visual studio but worst case you need to reinstall windows). I was surprised how long the visual studio installation took.
jeffery
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
My laptop upgraded without incident to Win10 Pro from Win8.1 Pro months ago. The November update, however, killed my WiFi connection and I had to restore to the earlier version to get it back. The November update actually put my cable modem into a coma and killed it for everyone, not just my laptop. Once back at my earlier version, I upgraded the WiFi adapter driver and the same thing happened, I lost my WiFi due to the cable modem going into a coma again. I haven't tried to apply the November update again and then rollback the WiFi driver yet. That's next. The moral of the story may be that the issue doesn't lay with Win10 itself, but the concomitant driver updates.
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
Similar thing for me on Thursday - dead network after install. Fortunately all I had to do was to manually install an ethernet adapter (updated from a few weeks back). As a pessimist I'm still waiting for things to be broken but not yet, oddly enough.
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
So, Yesterday, my daughter thinks she brook her Brand New Surface Book. The pen stopped working. The touch screen stopped working. Because I have 30+ years of computer experience, I suggest a full reboot. She complains that she rebooted JUST the day before. I suggest that she reboot, unless she does not need the Pen, or the touchscreen... But reboot early, reboot often, with a new Operating System, relatively new hardware. She rebooted, and found this update took FOREVER. She comes to me and says that she did not know it needed to install all of this. I suggested that "it knew", because it started breaking things to force the issue :-) [I am cynical enough to believe they may have done that on purpose!] A long time after the reboot (she opened an old laptop and started watching netflix), the computer finished, and all was good. BTW, we love the Surface Book. Great features... Windows 10... Not so much!
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
I have a brand new laptop that is doing something similar. I wonder if the update is the problem. For some reason the wifi just stops working. It works fine then it complains there is no internet and won't come back until I restart or at least go into sleep mode then back on. Already reinstalled the driver, but it's still occurring. :wtf:
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
I'm totally confused. Didn't you sign up to be one of their beta testers by installing Windows 10. As a beta tester, you should expect these kinds of snafus. What's the big deal? Or are you saying you finally got around to installing some of your deferred updates and they hosed your system? I could totally understand why you'd be upset if that's what happened.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
how "together", how seamless
It's interesting, isn't it? I get what they tried to do, but they do need to bring things back completely under a single paradigm. And this does *not* mean bringing them all under a dumbed-down paradigm. The number of times I have to hunt down the network property dialog to fix things that the lame-as Network settings page just can't handle drives me nuts.
cheers Chris Maunder
And it's getting worse, not better - once-good apps are Win10ifying and becoming useless. I used to use VLC and it was excellent. So a clean install of the OS later, and I thought I'd try the latest version: vlc-for-windows-store[^] and it's useless! It's lost all the tools, keyboard operations, settings...and the display shows green bars where the old one didn't... Hello Mr Uninstaller...hello old version...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
They did the same to me it prompted for the update at the end of the day so I boldly went, why not it is only another 3gb download... Morning: I would to restart, I have scheduled one but you could do it now if you like.... Shrugs: pressed "Restart Now" 2.75 hours later here is your newly upgraded windows except you have no network, tried to restore but no restore points before the install!!! uninstalled network card rebooted, base machine now has internet but not any of the Hyper V virtuals Reconfigured the first virtual and again got no internet access on the host machine Took another 4 hours to get all the virtuals happy with the network AND the host machine at the same time My (lack of) privacy settings all seem to have been reset in the upgrade as well I was impressed with the upgrade from 8.1 to 10, not quite so much with the upgrade from 10 to 10. Has anyone noticed any improvements? functional differences?
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
Were you running a Home edition of the whatever OS you updated? If so, MS upgraded you to a Home version of Win 10. Nobody talks about it much but Win 10 Home is crippled when it comes to networks. It won't join a domain etc etc etc by design. FWIW.
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed. This morning though... :mad: No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one. Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless? Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
They can move me to 10 when they pry 7 from cold, dead hands. 5 years from now, it will be called AdWin! windows with forced downloaded adds everywhere!! but it was free, so don't complain! I would rather pay for an operating system - not be given a spyware product. It's the begining of the end, mark my words.
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Now you know how MS improved Security Essentials - if there's no internet connection, there are (almost) no viruses. :|
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