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Kaspersky & others: Why do they do this?

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    Kaspersky sells direct at what it considers a reasonable price. They have no control over the degree to which Amazon is prepared to cut its own throat on loss leaders and offers. Incidentally the UK price for the same product from Amazon is the equivalent of $36.00. We often have the privilege of subsidising US offers. You can thank us any time!

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    raddevus
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    I shan't reply in kind. We Americans know how to hold our tongue. :laugh:

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      Kaspersky IS a virus. Don't trust those Ruskies! :mad:

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Mladen Jankovic
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      Well you Pindos certainly have trust issues. Is that why you spy on most of the world, including your allies and your own people? :)

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        Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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        Nicholas Marty
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        I certainly had. I was running Kaspersky 2014 before. After upgrading to 2016 they installed a sneaky proxy server and every web page got then scanned and modified by their proxy (in addition to taking like 5 seconds to load every page instead of a few milliseconds). You can't really deactivate this feature. I uninstalled.

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          it's an odd thing, ins't it? Oh well, I'll buy the cheaper one. :)

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          papagal
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          Bitdefender Internet Security is the best antivirus. I use it for years.

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            EDIT 2 : Important / Interesting Still have Kaspersky trial on my machine after 5 days or so. Just had a problem editing a document in my Google Drive. Kept saying it was failing / couldn't reach Internet. Couldn't figure it out. Aha!!! Kaspersky?? Googled the answer and yep, Google Groups report of Kaspersky blocking google drive.[^] Changed and fixed, but annoying. I recently thought I had a virus* so I downloaded Kaspersky Internet Security. It's working well so I was even thinking about buying it. That's where the interesting thing comes in. I searched on Amazon.com Amazon.com: Kaspersky Internet Security 2016 | 3 Devices | 1 Year | Download: Software[^] You can buy it far cheaper than you can from the real site. Here's what it looks like when I click the Buy button in Kaspersky trial: http://raddev.us/images/kaspersky.png[^] $39.99 per year Why do companies do this? Norton does the same thing. Very odd. Terrible Win10 Update *The reason I thought I had a virus? A terrible Win10 update, of course

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            Roman Hnatiuk
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            Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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              Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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              ZurdoDev
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              raddevus wrote:

              Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

              Absolutely. So many problems that our company finally removed it. Outlook wouldn't work. Visual Studio had problems. It slowed the system down to a crawl.

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Well you Pindos certainly have trust issues. Is that why you spy on most of the world, including your allies and your own people? :)

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                ZurdoDev
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                Actually, our government invented FaceBook so that we didn't have to spy anymore. :-\

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  EDIT 2 : Important / Interesting Still have Kaspersky trial on my machine after 5 days or so. Just had a problem editing a document in my Google Drive. Kept saying it was failing / couldn't reach Internet. Couldn't figure it out. Aha!!! Kaspersky?? Googled the answer and yep, Google Groups report of Kaspersky blocking google drive.[^] Changed and fixed, but annoying. I recently thought I had a virus* so I downloaded Kaspersky Internet Security. It's working well so I was even thinking about buying it. That's where the interesting thing comes in. I searched on Amazon.com Amazon.com: Kaspersky Internet Security 2016 | 3 Devices | 1 Year | Download: Software[^] You can buy it far cheaper than you can from the real site. Here's what it looks like when I click the Buy button in Kaspersky trial: http://raddev.us/images/kaspersky.png[^] $39.99 per year Why do companies do this? Norton does the same thing. Very odd. Terrible Win10 Update *The reason I thought I had a virus? A terrible Win10 update, of course

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                  Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                    Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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                    john126
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                    Yes. Once was enough due to the difficulty finding the bug. Kapersky blocks valid application with access database after update on 04/09/2014[^]

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                      Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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                      Simon_Whale
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                      You end up leaking your information to someone, be it NSA, FSB or UK Intelligence.. so doesn't matter what you buy some government somewhere knows what your googling for :laugh:

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                        I certainly had. I was running Kaspersky 2014 before. After upgrading to 2016 they installed a sneaky proxy server and every web page got then scanned and modified by their proxy (in addition to taking like 5 seconds to load every page instead of a few milliseconds). You can't really deactivate this feature. I uninstalled.

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                        raddevus
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                        Good to know. Thanks. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                          raddevus wrote:

                          Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

                          Absolutely. So many problems that our company finally removed it. Outlook wouldn't work. Visual Studio had problems. It slowed the system down to a crawl.

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          raddevus
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                          Agreed. It tries to lock down everything. Good info. Thanks:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                            Actually, our government invented FaceBook so that we didn't have to spy anymore. :-\

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            raddevus
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                            :laugh:

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                              Bitdefender Internet Security is the best antivirus. I use it for years.

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                              raddevus
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                              Thanks for the info

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                                Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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                                raddevus
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                                Great info thanks

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                                  Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  raddevus
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                                  Good to know about annoying little things like that. Thx

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                                    I shan't reply in kind. We Americans know how to hold our tongue. :laugh:

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                                    enhzflep
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                                    Boy, I sure wish more of your fellow country-men would practise the dying art.

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                                      Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

                                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                      mngerhold
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                                      There is also a silly issue with iTunes (under W10), which causes 50% cpu load after iTunes is shut down. However, whilst this has been blamed on Kaspersky, I have not confirmed it.

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                                      • M Mladen Jankovic

                                        Well you Pindos certainly have trust issues. Is that why you spy on most of the world, including your allies and your own people? :)

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                                        Daniel T Barnett
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                                        I don't know what a Pindo is. Could you enlighten me so I'll know whether to be offended or not?

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                                          Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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                                          JoeSox
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                                          It's what I use for the past year for my personal devices. It was ranked as the #1 virus catcher a few years ago.

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