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Kaspersky & others: Why do they do this?

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  • R raddevus

    Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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    Nicholas Marty
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    I certainly had. I was running Kaspersky 2014 before. After upgrading to 2016 they installed a sneaky proxy server and every web page got then scanned and modified by their proxy (in addition to taking like 5 seconds to load every page instead of a few milliseconds). You can't really deactivate this feature. I uninstalled.

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    • R raddevus

      it's an odd thing, ins't it? Oh well, I'll buy the cheaper one. :)

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      Bitdefender Internet Security is the best antivirus. I use it for years.

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      • R raddevus

        EDIT 2 : Important / Interesting Still have Kaspersky trial on my machine after 5 days or so. Just had a problem editing a document in my Google Drive. Kept saying it was failing / couldn't reach Internet. Couldn't figure it out. Aha!!! Kaspersky?? Googled the answer and yep, Google Groups report of Kaspersky blocking google drive.[^] Changed and fixed, but annoying. I recently thought I had a virus* so I downloaded Kaspersky Internet Security. It's working well so I was even thinking about buying it. That's where the interesting thing comes in. I searched on Amazon.com Amazon.com: Kaspersky Internet Security 2016 | 3 Devices | 1 Year | Download: Software[^] You can buy it far cheaper than you can from the real site. Here's what it looks like when I click the Buy button in Kaspersky trial: http://raddev.us/images/kaspersky.png[^] $39.99 per year Why do companies do this? Norton does the same thing. Very odd. Terrible Win10 Update *The reason I thought I had a virus? A terrible Win10 update, of course

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        Roman Hnatiuk
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        Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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        • R raddevus

          Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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          ZurdoDev
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          raddevus wrote:

          Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

          Absolutely. So many problems that our company finally removed it. Outlook wouldn't work. Visual Studio had problems. It slowed the system down to a crawl.

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • M Mladen Jankovic

            Well you Pindos certainly have trust issues. Is that why you spy on most of the world, including your allies and your own people? :)

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            ZurdoDev
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            Actually, our government invented FaceBook so that we didn't have to spy anymore. :-\

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              EDIT 2 : Important / Interesting Still have Kaspersky trial on my machine after 5 days or so. Just had a problem editing a document in my Google Drive. Kept saying it was failing / couldn't reach Internet. Couldn't figure it out. Aha!!! Kaspersky?? Googled the answer and yep, Google Groups report of Kaspersky blocking google drive.[^] Changed and fixed, but annoying. I recently thought I had a virus* so I downloaded Kaspersky Internet Security. It's working well so I was even thinking about buying it. That's where the interesting thing comes in. I searched on Amazon.com Amazon.com: Kaspersky Internet Security 2016 | 3 Devices | 1 Year | Download: Software[^] You can buy it far cheaper than you can from the real site. Here's what it looks like when I click the Buy button in Kaspersky trial: http://raddev.us/images/kaspersky.png[^] $39.99 per year Why do companies do this? Norton does the same thing. Very odd. Terrible Win10 Update *The reason I thought I had a virus? A terrible Win10 update, of course

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              kmoorevs
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              Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              • R raddevus

                Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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                john126
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                Yes. Once was enough due to the difficulty finding the bug. Kapersky blocks valid application with access database after update on 04/09/2014[^]

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                • R Roman Hnatiuk

                  Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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                  Simon_Whale
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                  You end up leaking your information to someone, be it NSA, FSB or UK Intelligence.. so doesn't matter what you buy some government somewhere knows what your googling for :laugh:

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                  • N Nicholas Marty

                    I certainly had. I was running Kaspersky 2014 before. After upgrading to 2016 they installed a sneaky proxy server and every web page got then scanned and modified by their proxy (in addition to taking like 5 seconds to load every page instead of a few milliseconds). You can't really deactivate this feature. I uninstalled.

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                    raddevus
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                    Good to know. Thanks. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      raddevus wrote:

                      Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

                      Absolutely. So many problems that our company finally removed it. Outlook wouldn't work. Visual Studio had problems. It slowed the system down to a crawl.

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      raddevus
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                      Agreed. It tries to lock down everything. Good info. Thanks:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

                        Actually, our government invented FaceBook so that we didn't have to spy anymore. :-\

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        raddevus
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                        :laugh:

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                        • P papagal

                          Bitdefender Internet Security is the best antivirus. I use it for years.

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                          raddevus
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                          Thanks for the info

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                          • R Roman Hnatiuk

                            Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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                            raddevus
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                            Great info thanks

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                            • K kmoorevs

                              Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              raddevus
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                              Good to know about annoying little things like that. Thx

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                              • R raddevus

                                I shan't reply in kind. We Americans know how to hold our tongue. :laugh:

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                                enhzflep
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                                Boy, I sure wish more of your fellow country-men would practise the dying art.

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                                • K kmoorevs

                                  Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  mngerhold
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                                  There is also a silly issue with iTunes (under W10), which causes 50% cpu load after iTunes is shut down. However, whilst this has been blamed on Kaspersky, I have not confirmed it.

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                                  • M Mladen Jankovic

                                    Well you Pindos certainly have trust issues. Is that why you spy on most of the world, including your allies and your own people? :)

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                                    Daniel T Barnett
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                                    I don't know what a Pindo is. Could you enlighten me so I'll know whether to be offended or not?

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                                    • R raddevus

                                      Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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                                      JoeSox
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                                      It's what I use for the past year for my personal devices. It was ranked as the #1 virus catcher a few years ago.

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                                      • D Daniel T Barnett

                                        I don't know what a Pindo is. Could you enlighten me so I'll know whether to be offended or not?

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                                        Mladen Jankovic
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                                        Russian slang for Americans - something like Ruskies are for Russians in English. Both can be taken as offensive, or not.

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                                        • M Mladen Jankovic

                                          Russian slang for Americans - something like Ruskies are for Russians in English. Both can be taken as offensive, or not.

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                                          Daniel T Barnett
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                                          Thanks, I learned a new word and I'll elect to not be offended.

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