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Kaspersky & others: Why do they do this?

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  • R raddevus

    EDIT 2 : Important / Interesting Still have Kaspersky trial on my machine after 5 days or so. Just had a problem editing a document in my Google Drive. Kept saying it was failing / couldn't reach Internet. Couldn't figure it out. Aha!!! Kaspersky?? Googled the answer and yep, Google Groups report of Kaspersky blocking google drive.[^] Changed and fixed, but annoying. I recently thought I had a virus* so I downloaded Kaspersky Internet Security. It's working well so I was even thinking about buying it. That's where the interesting thing comes in. I searched on Amazon.com Amazon.com: Kaspersky Internet Security 2016 | 3 Devices | 1 Year | Download: Software[^] You can buy it far cheaper than you can from the real site. Here's what it looks like when I click the Buy button in Kaspersky trial: http://raddev.us/images/kaspersky.png[^] $39.99 per year Why do companies do this? Norton does the same thing. Very odd. Terrible Win10 Update *The reason I thought I had a virus? A terrible Win10 update, of course

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    Roman Hnatiuk
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    Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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      Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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      ZurdoDev
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      raddevus wrote:

      Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

      Absolutely. So many problems that our company finally removed it. Outlook wouldn't work. Visual Studio had problems. It slowed the system down to a crawl.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      • M Mladen Jankovic

        Well you Pindos certainly have trust issues. Is that why you spy on most of the world, including your allies and your own people? :)

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        ZurdoDev
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        Actually, our government invented FaceBook so that we didn't have to spy anymore. :-\

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        • R raddevus

          EDIT 2 : Important / Interesting Still have Kaspersky trial on my machine after 5 days or so. Just had a problem editing a document in my Google Drive. Kept saying it was failing / couldn't reach Internet. Couldn't figure it out. Aha!!! Kaspersky?? Googled the answer and yep, Google Groups report of Kaspersky blocking google drive.[^] Changed and fixed, but annoying. I recently thought I had a virus* so I downloaded Kaspersky Internet Security. It's working well so I was even thinking about buying it. That's where the interesting thing comes in. I searched on Amazon.com Amazon.com: Kaspersky Internet Security 2016 | 3 Devices | 1 Year | Download: Software[^] You can buy it far cheaper than you can from the real site. Here's what it looks like when I click the Buy button in Kaspersky trial: http://raddev.us/images/kaspersky.png[^] $39.99 per year Why do companies do this? Norton does the same thing. Very odd. Terrible Win10 Update *The reason I thought I had a virus? A terrible Win10 update, of course

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          kmoorevs
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          Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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          • R raddevus

            Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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            john126
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            Yes. Once was enough due to the difficulty finding the bug. Kapersky blocks valid application with access database after update on 04/09/2014[^]

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            • R Roman Hnatiuk

              Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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              Simon_Whale
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              You end up leaking your information to someone, be it NSA, FSB or UK Intelligence.. so doesn't matter what you buy some government somewhere knows what your googling for :laugh:

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                I certainly had. I was running Kaspersky 2014 before. After upgrading to 2016 they installed a sneaky proxy server and every web page got then scanned and modified by their proxy (in addition to taking like 5 seconds to load every page instead of a few milliseconds). You can't really deactivate this feature. I uninstalled.

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                raddevus
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                Good to know. Thanks. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                  raddevus wrote:

                  Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

                  Absolutely. So many problems that our company finally removed it. Outlook wouldn't work. Visual Studio had problems. It slowed the system down to a crawl.

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  raddevus
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                  Agreed. It tries to lock down everything. Good info. Thanks:thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    Actually, our government invented FaceBook so that we didn't have to spy anymore. :-\

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    raddevus
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                    :laugh:

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                    • P papagal

                      Bitdefender Internet Security is the best antivirus. I use it for years.

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                      raddevus
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                      Thanks for the info

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                      • R Roman Hnatiuk

                        Remember, that Kaspersky is a Russian company, and they/their owner have proven ties to FSB (Russian ex-KGB; I am too lazy to google it, but there was a story about it a few months ago). So, go ahead with Kaspersky, if you don't mind leaking your data to Kremlin (and potentially being a bot if full scale was starts). Otherwise, I would recommend e.g. Bitdefender (switched to it about 5 years ago, from Kaspersky, and all is really great!). The pricing is funny as well (ALL antivirus companies do it like that), so do your homework - 5 minutes googling will save you a hundred bucks easily, if you need it for e.g. five devices at home.

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                        raddevus
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                        Great info thanks

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                        • K kmoorevs

                          Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                          raddevus
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                          Good to know about annoying little things like that. Thx

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                          • R raddevus

                            I shan't reply in kind. We Americans know how to hold our tongue. :laugh:

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                            enhzflep
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                            Boy, I sure wish more of your fellow country-men would practise the dying art.

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                              Unless they have fixed it, there is a slight compatibility issue with Win10 and the start menu. I have it on a new laptop. Anytime I need to make changes to the start menu I have to turn off Kaspersky AV.

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              mngerhold
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                              There is also a silly issue with iTunes (under W10), which causes 50% cpu load after iTunes is shut down. However, whilst this has been blamed on Kaspersky, I have not confirmed it.

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                              • M Mladen Jankovic

                                Well you Pindos certainly have trust issues. Is that why you spy on most of the world, including your allies and your own people? :)

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                                Daniel T Barnett
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                                I don't know what a Pindo is. Could you enlighten me so I'll know whether to be offended or not?

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                                • R raddevus

                                  Honestly? Have you had problems with their software?

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                                  JoeSox
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                                  It's what I use for the past year for my personal devices. It was ranked as the #1 virus catcher a few years ago.

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                                  • D Daniel T Barnett

                                    I don't know what a Pindo is. Could you enlighten me so I'll know whether to be offended or not?

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                                    Mladen Jankovic
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                                    Russian slang for Americans - something like Ruskies are for Russians in English. Both can be taken as offensive, or not.

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                                    • M Mladen Jankovic

                                      Russian slang for Americans - something like Ruskies are for Russians in English. Both can be taken as offensive, or not.

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                                      Daniel T Barnett
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                                      Thanks, I learned a new word and I'll elect to not be offended.

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                                      • Z ZurdoDev

                                        Kaspersky IS a virus. Don't trust those Ruskies! :mad:

                                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                        RandyWester
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                                        And there are 0000 00010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 people who don't understand little-endian binary.

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                                        • D Daniel T Barnett

                                          I don't know what a Pindo is. Could you enlighten me so I'll know whether to be offended or not?

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                                          Member 12023988
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                                          I guess you also don't know what a web search is.

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