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What to do? What to do?

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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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    Amarnath S
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    IMHO, don't ask others opinions*; they will make your decision-making even harder. On your own, take a firm decision, and just accelerate towards completion. * between two nearly equally good choices.

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      Nish Nishant wrote:

      Certainly the more popular choice for new projects.

      Ys, but is it the right choice? My brain is about to asplode... :-)

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      CPallini
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      Well, if _most of the new project_s use it, then it is the wrong choice! :laugh:

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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        Pete OHanlon
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        If it were me, I'd use the EAN stack of Node.js with whatever data source you're expecting.

        This space for rent

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        • A Amarnath S

          IMHO, don't ask others opinions*; they will make your decision-making even harder. On your own, take a firm decision, and just accelerate towards completion. * between two nearly equally good choices.

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          I'm not really being very serious - I'm waiting for VS2015 to install on my freshly minted windows 10 installation. I'll probably go with WebForms as the application will be grid-heavy and it will save me a lot of time. Or maybe MVC... Hmmm... :)

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Trial by combat. Nominate two (preferably pretty useless) colleagues as a Champion for the two methods, give them each a knife and the survivor is the one you use. Simples!

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Perfect. :thumbsup:

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              If it were me, I'd use the EAN stack of Node.js with whatever data source you're expecting.

              This space for rent

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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              Wash your mouth out! :)

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                Wash your mouth out! :)

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                Pete OHanlon
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                It's fast and cheap. Just the way you like it ;)

                This space for rent

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  As there is no details... Take a part of the project definitions (like login page and +1) and do it in both...Go with the one feels better...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    Nish Nishant wrote:

                    Certainly the more popular choice for new projects.

                    Ys, but is it the right choice? My brain is about to asplode... :-)

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices. So I'd go with that just for those reasons.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Trial by combat. Nominate two (preferably pretty useless) colleagues as a Champion for the two methods, give them each a knife and the survivor is the one you use. Simples!

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      You forgot to have an augur on site, so he can examine the entrails (presumably of the loser...) for bad omens :)

                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                        You forgot to have an augur on site, so he can examine the entrails (presumably of the loser...) for bad omens :)

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                        presumably of the loser

                        Well, the winner is going to object. And he has a knife... :laugh:

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          As there is no details... Take a part of the project definitions (like login page and +1) and do it in both...Go with the one feels better...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          The details were seen in the leftovers of my bacon and egg breakfast... (I'm not being at all serious - VS2015 is still installing - I'm bored).

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices. So I'd go with that just for those reasons.

                            Regards, Nish


                            Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            Nish Nishant wrote:

                            Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices.

                            I thought mvc was just an april fool's joke that got out of hand...

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                            • R R Giskard Reventlov

                              Nish Nishant wrote:

                              Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices.

                              I thought mvc was just an april fool's joke that got out of hand...

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              You are thinking of J#.

                              Regards, Nish


                              Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                Lost User
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                                Doesn't matter. The server side is there just to push some JSON around. I would be much more concerned with the client side JS framework.

                                it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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                                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                  Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                                  I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc.

                                  Neither. :) Seriously, I don't use either to write websites, and no, I don't use Rails or Python or all that cruft. I simply find it easier, more fun, and frankly better, to roll my own. Given that I now have a very functional package for writing websites, I'm quite happy. Marc

                                  Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                    Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                    DaveAuld
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                                    I know the feeling! I have been thinking of starting a couple of new projects lately and initially was going to do in Asp.net MVC, but have also been considering doing end to end javascript so started looking at a million different libraries and frameworks and then just got lost in the mire....... At the moment I'm teetering on Meteor[^]........but sure it will scare me away like everything else has :doh: That's what happens when you stop tinkering, change platform's, change company and then top it off and change countries! Work.....it just gets in the way of things :)

                                    Dave Find Me On:Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

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                                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                      Nish Nishant wrote:

                                      Certainly the more popular choice for new projects.

                                      Ys, but is it the right choice? My brain is about to asplode... :-)

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                                      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                      If your brain is about to assplode, you definitely should stop thinking with your derriér. ;P

                                      "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                      Ron White, Comedian

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                                        R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                                        I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc.

                                        Neither. :) Seriously, I don't use either to write websites, and no, I don't use Rails or Python or all that cruft. I simply find it easier, more fun, and frankly better, to roll my own. Given that I now have a very functional package for writing websites, I'm quite happy. Marc

                                        Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                                        ScottM1
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                                        This might be a daft question but how did you go about rolling your own?

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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                          EbenRoux
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                                          My current take on web-site development is using a MVC JavaScript library with a C# Web-Api back-end. I am using CanJS currently and we are using Ember at work although I am pushing to get that replaced with CanJS.

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