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What to do? What to do?

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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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    Pete OHanlon
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    If it were me, I'd use the EAN stack of Node.js with whatever data source you're expecting.

    This space for rent

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    • A Amarnath S

      IMHO, don't ask others opinions*; they will make your decision-making even harder. On your own, take a firm decision, and just accelerate towards completion. * between two nearly equally good choices.

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      I'm not really being very serious - I'm waiting for VS2015 to install on my freshly minted windows 10 installation. I'll probably go with WebForms as the application will be grid-heavy and it will save me a lot of time. Or maybe MVC... Hmmm... :)

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Trial by combat. Nominate two (preferably pretty useless) colleagues as a Champion for the two methods, give them each a knife and the survivor is the one you use. Simples!

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        Perfect. :thumbsup:

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          If it were me, I'd use the EAN stack of Node.js with whatever data source you're expecting.

          This space for rent

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Wash your mouth out! :)

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Wash your mouth out! :)

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            Pete OHanlon
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            It's fast and cheap. Just the way you like it ;)

            This space for rent

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              As there is no details... Take a part of the project definitions (like login page and +1) and do it in both...Go with the one feels better...

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                Nish Nishant wrote:

                Certainly the more popular choice for new projects.

                Ys, but is it the right choice? My brain is about to asplode... :-)

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                Nish Nishant
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                Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices. So I'd go with that just for those reasons.

                Regards, Nish


                Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Trial by combat. Nominate two (preferably pretty useless) colleagues as a Champion for the two methods, give them each a knife and the survivor is the one you use. Simples!

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                  You forgot to have an augur on site, so he can examine the entrails (presumably of the loser...) for bad omens :)

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                    You forgot to have an augur on site, so he can examine the entrails (presumably of the loser...) for bad omens :)

                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                    presumably of the loser

                    Well, the winner is going to object. And he has a knife... :laugh:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      As there is no details... Take a part of the project definitions (like login page and +1) and do it in both...Go with the one feels better...

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      The details were seen in the leftovers of my bacon and egg breakfast... (I'm not being at all serious - VS2015 is still installing - I'm bored).

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices. So I'd go with that just for those reasons.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        Nish Nishant wrote:

                        Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices.

                        I thought mvc was just an april fool's joke that got out of hand...

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          Nish Nishant wrote:

                          Using ASP.NET MVC encourages better top level design and better coding practices.

                          I thought mvc was just an april fool's joke that got out of hand...

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          You are thinking of J#.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          • R R Giskard Reventlov

                            Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                            Lost User
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                            Doesn't matter. The server side is there just to push some JSON around. I would be much more concerned with the client side JS framework.

                            it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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                            • R R Giskard Reventlov

                              Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                              I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc.

                              Neither. :) Seriously, I don't use either to write websites, and no, I don't use Rails or Python or all that cruft. I simply find it easier, more fun, and frankly better, to roll my own. Given that I now have a very functional package for writing websites, I'm quite happy. Marc

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                              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                DaveAuld
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                                I know the feeling! I have been thinking of starting a couple of new projects lately and initially was going to do in Asp.net MVC, but have also been considering doing end to end javascript so started looking at a million different libraries and frameworks and then just got lost in the mire....... At the moment I'm teetering on Meteor[^]........but sure it will scare me away like everything else has :doh: That's what happens when you stop tinkering, change platform's, change company and then top it off and change countries! Work.....it just gets in the way of things :)

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                                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                  Nish Nishant wrote:

                                  Certainly the more popular choice for new projects.

                                  Ys, but is it the right choice? My brain is about to asplode... :-)

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                                  Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                  If your brain is about to assplode, you definitely should stop thinking with your derriér. ;P

                                  "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                  Ron White, Comedian

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                                    R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                                    I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc.

                                    Neither. :) Seriously, I don't use either to write websites, and no, I don't use Rails or Python or all that cruft. I simply find it easier, more fun, and frankly better, to roll my own. Given that I now have a very functional package for writing websites, I'm quite happy. Marc

                                    Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                                    ScottM1
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                                    This might be a daft question but how did you go about rolling your own?

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                                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                      Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                      EbenRoux
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                                      My current take on web-site development is using a MVC JavaScript library with a C# Web-Api back-end. I am using CanJS currently and we are using Ember at work although I am pushing to get that replaced with CanJS.

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                                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                        Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                        Roger165
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                                        Went thru the same struggle then decided on Laravel. Was it the right choice so far I think so. I got tired of starting an application and then not be able to figure out where to go from there. I been using Microsoft products since 1989 and I had enough with the help getting worst. I was looking forward 5 years and wanting to invest my time in learning something that would bring back joy in coding.

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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          Am about to hit the button to start a new web project. I simply can't decide whether I should use webforms or mvc. They both have their pros and cons. Going to have to be a coin toss - unless anyone has a more interesting way to decide... Well, have you??? :)

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                                          Kirk 10389821
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                                          How about you do it both ways, and then write an article explaining the pros and cons?

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