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  • K Kirk 10389821

    This reminds me of an EDI file. I assume it cannot handle a MULTI-LINE value. I assume only ONE value per line Since it has multiple record types inside one file, I agree that it looks like an INI file without equal signs, or [] sections. I would start by calling a single file with ONE set of values: A Space Delimited KEY VALUE file. But you could simplify it by calling it a Key Value file. The fact that multiple headers can exist, implies some level or hierarchy. So, I get to: Hierarchical Key Value File (Sounds nice and formal) or a Multi-Section Key Value File Organized Key Value File Multi Key Value File EDIType Key Value File Hopefully that gets you started Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

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    Sascha Lefevre
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    Yeah, I think I'll go with Key-Value file :)

    Kirk 10389821 wrote:

    Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

    I'll split it into Key-Value pairs first without caring for the values and then pass the list of Key-Value pairs to the next processing stage. I don't need events there but if someone who wants to use my reader-code from the Tip/Trick I'm going to write needs events he'll still be able to implement them on the list of Key-Value pairs ;)

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      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

      ### header
      001 value1
      002 value2
      010 value3
      300 value4

      header of next record

      (etc)

      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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      Records in a "Fielded" text file: Fielded text - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] (Your "key-value" pairs could easily evolve into something more comprehensive; then you're stuck with a misleading name).

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        Records in a "Fielded" text file: Fielded text - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] (Your "key-value" pairs could easily evolve into something more comprehensive; then you're stuck with a misleading name).

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        Sascha Lefevre
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        I appreciate your intent, Gerry, but I'm certain that it won't evolve: It's not my own creation, it's a standard originating from the seventies and the basic structure hasn't changed since ;)

        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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        • S Sascha Lefevre

          In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

          ### header
          001 value1
          002 value2
          010 value3
          300 value4

          header of next record

          (etc)

          As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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          wizardzz
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          what do mean by exchange formats? fixed format, as in cobol comes to mind, or space delimited, or series data?

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            what do mean by exchange formats? fixed format, as in cobol comes to mind, or space delimited, or series data?

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            Sascha Lefevre
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            It's newline-delimited. I'm just wondering if there's a term for it, like CSV for comma-separated. What is your notion of series data?

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            • S Sascha Lefevre

              It's newline-delimited. I'm just wondering if there's a term for it, like CSV for comma-separated. What is your notion of series data?

              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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              wizardzz
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              Isn't CSV technically newline-delimited as well as comma separated? I guess series data, I was thinking if it's ordered like time series, but none of the values are datetime. Not sure if that makes sense. Order Number Value 10 11.2 11 16.5 12 18.5

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                Isn't CSV technically newline-delimited as well as comma separated? I guess series data, I was thinking if it's ordered like time series, but none of the values are datetime. Not sure if that makes sense. Order Number Value 10 11.2 11 16.5 12 18.5

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                wizardzz wrote:

                Isn't CSV technically newline-delimited as well as comma separated?

                Sure. Then "my" format would be "empty-line-delimited and newline-separated" :)

                wizardzz wrote:

                I was thinking if it's ordered like time series, but none of the values are datetime.

                No, that's not the right term for it then. I think I'll go with "something key-value something" ;)

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                • S Sascha Lefevre

                  I appreciate your intent, Gerry, but I'm certain that it won't evolve: It's not my own creation, it's a standard originating from the seventies and the basic structure hasn't changed since ;)

                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                  I threw "evolution" in as an "extra"; I guess I failed to make my point. "Key Value Pair" sounds like IT-speak or something from a grocery flyer.

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                    I threw "evolution" in as an "extra"; I guess I failed to make my point. "Key Value Pair" sounds like IT-speak or something from a grocery flyer.

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                    Sascha Lefevre
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                    IT-speak is alright because the only reason I'm looking for a term for it is my intention to write an Article/Tip/Trick for it :)

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                    • M milo xml

                      I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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                      englebart
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                      750 is being wrapped by the browser, there is only one line break.

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                      • S Sascha Lefevre

                        In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                        ### header
                        001 value1
                        002 value2
                        010 value3
                        300 value4

                        header of next record

                        (etc)

                        As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                        PSU Steve
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                        I would call it "sectioned data" where each record is a "section" of the file starting with a header and having its values in the remainder of the section. I've had to parse data like this a few times before, some not nearly as straightforward as yours though.

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