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  • S Sascha Lefevre

    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

    ### header
    001 value1
    002 value2
    010 value3
    300 value4

    header of next record

    (etc)

    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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    Gennady Oster
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    Distributed recordset ?

    My English is permanently under construction. Be patient !!

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    • S Sascha Lefevre

      Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

      ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
      001 0000000913
      003 20150612
      004 20100526
      030 a|1ibr|a|||17
      076eTourismus
      100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
      104aGayler, Brigitte
      331aAnimation im Urlaub
      335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
      359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
      403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
      410 Mnchen [u. a.]
      412 Oldenbourg
      425a2003
      433 IX, 340 S.
      434 Ill.
      451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
      527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
      540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
      568 03N052763
      655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
      655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
      700 T::FIN
      750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
      902 Animation
      902 Urlaub
      902 Handbuch

      00044nM2.01000024 l

      001 0000000913
      003 20150612
      004 20100526
      012 0000000913
      100 T 76
      105 Bibliothek
      120 00001465

      00045nM2.01000024 h

      001 0000000915
      003 20150612
      004 20100526
      030 a|1ibr|a|||17
      076eTourismus
      100 Schulz, Axel
      331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
      335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
      359 von Axel Schulz
      403 1. Auflage
      410 Mnchen
      412 Oldenbourg
      425a2009
      433 X, 342 S.
      434 Ill., graph. Darst.
      451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
      501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
      540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
      568 08N290333
      655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
      655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
      655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
      700 T::SCHUL
      750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

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      milo xml
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      I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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        Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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        Vark111
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        This is the closest that comes to my mind. INI format is exactly what you've got there, except yours is missing the = sign between the key and value. You have section headers followed by a bunch of key value pairs that only apply to that section. Now you may not be using for configuration data, which is what INI format files are typically used for, but I don't think that's a requirement of the format per se.

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        • S Sascha Lefevre

          In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

          ### header
          001 value1
          002 value2
          010 value3
          300 value4

          header of next record

          (etc)

          As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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          Kirk 10389821
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          This reminds me of an EDI file. I assume it cannot handle a MULTI-LINE value. I assume only ONE value per line Since it has multiple record types inside one file, I agree that it looks like an INI file without equal signs, or [] sections. I would start by calling a single file with ONE set of values: A Space Delimited KEY VALUE file. But you could simplify it by calling it a Key Value file. The fact that multiple headers can exist, implies some level or hierarchy. So, I get to: Hierarchical Key Value File (Sounds nice and formal) or a Multi-Section Key Value File Organized Key Value File Multi Key Value File EDIType Key Value File Hopefully that gets you started Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

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          • M milo xml

            I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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            Sascha Lefevre
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            milo-xml wrote:

            Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

            The format originates from the seventies... X|

            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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              This reminds me of an EDI file. I assume it cannot handle a MULTI-LINE value. I assume only ONE value per line Since it has multiple record types inside one file, I agree that it looks like an INI file without equal signs, or [] sections. I would start by calling a single file with ONE set of values: A Space Delimited KEY VALUE file. But you could simplify it by calling it a Key Value file. The fact that multiple headers can exist, implies some level or hierarchy. So, I get to: Hierarchical Key Value File (Sounds nice and formal) or a Multi-Section Key Value File Organized Key Value File Multi Key Value File EDIType Key Value File Hopefully that gets you started Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

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              Sascha Lefevre
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              Yeah, I think I'll go with Key-Value file :)

              Kirk 10389821 wrote:

              Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

              I'll split it into Key-Value pairs first without caring for the values and then pass the list of Key-Value pairs to the next processing stage. I don't need events there but if someone who wants to use my reader-code from the Tip/Trick I'm going to write needs events he'll still be able to implement them on the list of Key-Value pairs ;)

              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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              • S Sascha Lefevre

                In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                ### header
                001 value1
                002 value2
                010 value3
                300 value4

                header of next record

                (etc)

                As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                Lost User
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                Records in a "Fielded" text file: Fielded text - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] (Your "key-value" pairs could easily evolve into something more comprehensive; then you're stuck with a misleading name).

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                • L Lost User

                  Records in a "Fielded" text file: Fielded text - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] (Your "key-value" pairs could easily evolve into something more comprehensive; then you're stuck with a misleading name).

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                  Sascha Lefevre
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                  I appreciate your intent, Gerry, but I'm certain that it won't evolve: It's not my own creation, it's a standard originating from the seventies and the basic structure hasn't changed since ;)

                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                  • S Sascha Lefevre

                    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                    ### header
                    001 value1
                    002 value2
                    010 value3
                    300 value4

                    header of next record

                    (etc)

                    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                    wizardzz
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                    what do mean by exchange formats? fixed format, as in cobol comes to mind, or space delimited, or series data?

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                    • W wizardzz

                      what do mean by exchange formats? fixed format, as in cobol comes to mind, or space delimited, or series data?

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                      Sascha Lefevre
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                      It's newline-delimited. I'm just wondering if there's a term for it, like CSV for comma-separated. What is your notion of series data?

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                      • S Sascha Lefevre

                        It's newline-delimited. I'm just wondering if there's a term for it, like CSV for comma-separated. What is your notion of series data?

                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                        wizardzz
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                        Isn't CSV technically newline-delimited as well as comma separated? I guess series data, I was thinking if it's ordered like time series, but none of the values are datetime. Not sure if that makes sense. Order Number Value 10 11.2 11 16.5 12 18.5

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                        • W wizardzz

                          Isn't CSV technically newline-delimited as well as comma separated? I guess series data, I was thinking if it's ordered like time series, but none of the values are datetime. Not sure if that makes sense. Order Number Value 10 11.2 11 16.5 12 18.5

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                          Sascha Lefevre
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                          wizardzz wrote:

                          Isn't CSV technically newline-delimited as well as comma separated?

                          Sure. Then "my" format would be "empty-line-delimited and newline-separated" :)

                          wizardzz wrote:

                          I was thinking if it's ordered like time series, but none of the values are datetime.

                          No, that's not the right term for it then. I think I'll go with "something key-value something" ;)

                          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                          • S Sascha Lefevre

                            I appreciate your intent, Gerry, but I'm certain that it won't evolve: It's not my own creation, it's a standard originating from the seventies and the basic structure hasn't changed since ;)

                            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                            I threw "evolution" in as an "extra"; I guess I failed to make my point. "Key Value Pair" sounds like IT-speak or something from a grocery flyer.

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                              I threw "evolution" in as an "extra"; I guess I failed to make my point. "Key Value Pair" sounds like IT-speak or something from a grocery flyer.

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                              Sascha Lefevre
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                              IT-speak is alright because the only reason I'm looking for a term for it is my intention to write an Article/Tip/Trick for it :)

                              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                              • M milo xml

                                I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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                                750 is being wrapped by the browser, there is only one line break.

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                                • S Sascha Lefevre

                                  In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                  ### header
                                  001 value1
                                  002 value2
                                  010 value3
                                  300 value4

                                  header of next record

                                  (etc)

                                  As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                  PSU Steve
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                                  I would call it "sectioned data" where each record is a "section" of the file starting with a header and having its values in the remainder of the section. I've had to parse data like this a few times before, some not nearly as straightforward as yours though.

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