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  • S Sascha Lefevre

    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

    ### header
    001 value1
    002 value2
    010 value3
    300 value4

    header of next record

    (etc)

    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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    Looking at the title, I thought that you were looking for a ... Term as a Faculty member in a University.

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    • S Sascha Lefevre

      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

      ### header
      001 value1
      002 value2
      010 value3
      300 value4

      header of next record

      (etc)

      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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        Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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        Sascha Lefevre
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        Well.. they initialize the madness that will befall you when actually dealing with their semantic content.. :sigh:

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        • S Sascha Lefevre

          In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

          ### header
          001 value1
          002 value2
          010 value3
          300 value4

          header of next record

          (etc)

          As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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          Dr Walt Fair PE
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          Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

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          • S Sascha Lefevre

            In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

            ### header
            001 value1
            002 value2
            010 value3
            300 value4

            header of next record

            (etc)

            As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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            Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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            • S Sascha Lefevre

              In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

              ### header
              001 value1
              002 value2
              010 value3
              300 value4

              header of next record

              (etc)

              As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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              Marco Bertschi
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              It comes close to an ini file, but I'd go with Walt's columnar data term.

              "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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              • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

                CQ de W5ALT

                Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                Sascha Lefevre
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                Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                001 0000000913
                003 20150612
                004 20100526
                030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                076eTourismus
                100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                104aGayler, Brigitte
                331aAnimation im Urlaub
                335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                412 Oldenbourg
                425a2003
                433 IX, 340 S.
                434 Ill.
                451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                568 03N052763
                655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                700 T::FIN
                750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                902 Animation
                902 Urlaub
                902 Handbuch

                00044nM2.01000024 l

                001 0000000913
                003 20150612
                004 20100526
                012 0000000913
                100 T 76
                105 Bibliothek
                120 00001465

                00045nM2.01000024 h

                001 0000000915
                003 20150612
                004 20100526
                030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                076eTourismus
                100 Schulz, Axel
                331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                359 von Axel Schulz
                403 1. Auflage
                410 Mnchen
                412 Oldenbourg
                425a2009
                433 X, 342 S.
                434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                568 08N290333
                655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                700 T::SCHUL
                750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

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                • K KarstenK

                  Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                  Sascha Lefevre
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                  Yeah.. though I wish that'd be the major challenge here :laugh:

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

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                    BillWoodruff
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                    key-value pair data file

                    «In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”

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                    • S Sascha Lefevre

                      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                      ### header
                      001 value1
                      002 value2
                      010 value3
                      300 value4

                      header of next record

                      (etc)

                      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                      Gennady Oster
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                      Distributed recordset ?

                      My English is permanently under construction. Be patient !!

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                      • S Sascha Lefevre

                        Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                        ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                        001 0000000913
                        003 20150612
                        004 20100526
                        030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                        076eTourismus
                        100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                        104aGayler, Brigitte
                        331aAnimation im Urlaub
                        335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                        359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                        403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                        410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                        412 Oldenbourg
                        425a2003
                        433 IX, 340 S.
                        434 Ill.
                        451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                        527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                        540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                        568 03N052763
                        655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                        655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                        700 T::FIN
                        750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                        902 Animation
                        902 Urlaub
                        902 Handbuch

                        00044nM2.01000024 l

                        001 0000000913
                        003 20150612
                        004 20100526
                        012 0000000913
                        100 T 76
                        105 Bibliothek
                        120 00001465

                        00045nM2.01000024 h

                        001 0000000915
                        003 20150612
                        004 20100526
                        030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                        076eTourismus
                        100 Schulz, Axel
                        331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                        335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                        359 von Axel Schulz
                        403 1. Auflage
                        410 Mnchen
                        412 Oldenbourg
                        425a2009
                        433 X, 342 S.
                        434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                        451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                        501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                        540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                        568 08N290333
                        655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                        655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                        655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                        700 T::SCHUL
                        750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

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                        milo xml
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                        I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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                          Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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                          This is the closest that comes to my mind. INI format is exactly what you've got there, except yours is missing the = sign between the key and value. You have section headers followed by a bunch of key value pairs that only apply to that section. Now you may not be using for configuration data, which is what INI format files are typically used for, but I don't think that's a requirement of the format per se.

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                          • S Sascha Lefevre

                            In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                            ### header
                            001 value1
                            002 value2
                            010 value3
                            300 value4

                            header of next record

                            (etc)

                            As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                            Kirk 10389821
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                            This reminds me of an EDI file. I assume it cannot handle a MULTI-LINE value. I assume only ONE value per line Since it has multiple record types inside one file, I agree that it looks like an INI file without equal signs, or [] sections. I would start by calling a single file with ONE set of values: A Space Delimited KEY VALUE file. But you could simplify it by calling it a Key Value file. The fact that multiple headers can exist, implies some level or hierarchy. So, I get to: Hierarchical Key Value File (Sounds nice and formal) or a Multi-Section Key Value File Organized Key Value File Multi Key Value File EDIType Key Value File Hopefully that gets you started Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

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                              I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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                              Sascha Lefevre
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                              milo-xml wrote:

                              Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

                              The format originates from the seventies... X|

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                                This reminds me of an EDI file. I assume it cannot handle a MULTI-LINE value. I assume only ONE value per line Since it has multiple record types inside one file, I agree that it looks like an INI file without equal signs, or [] sections. I would start by calling a single file with ONE set of values: A Space Delimited KEY VALUE file. But you could simplify it by calling it a Key Value file. The fact that multiple headers can exist, implies some level or hierarchy. So, I get to: Hierarchical Key Value File (Sounds nice and formal) or a Multi-Section Key Value File Organized Key Value File Multi Key Value File EDIType Key Value File Hopefully that gets you started Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

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                                Sascha Lefevre
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                                Yeah, I think I'll go with Key-Value file :)

                                Kirk 10389821 wrote:

                                Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

                                I'll split it into Key-Value pairs first without caring for the values and then pass the list of Key-Value pairs to the next processing stage. I don't need events there but if someone who wants to use my reader-code from the Tip/Trick I'm going to write needs events he'll still be able to implement them on the list of Key-Value pairs ;)

                                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                • S Sascha Lefevre

                                  In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                  ### header
                                  001 value1
                                  002 value2
                                  010 value3
                                  300 value4

                                  header of next record

                                  (etc)

                                  As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                  Records in a "Fielded" text file: Fielded text - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] (Your "key-value" pairs could easily evolve into something more comprehensive; then you're stuck with a misleading name).

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                                    Records in a "Fielded" text file: Fielded text - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] (Your "key-value" pairs could easily evolve into something more comprehensive; then you're stuck with a misleading name).

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                                    Sascha Lefevre
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                                    I appreciate your intent, Gerry, but I'm certain that it won't evolve: It's not my own creation, it's a standard originating from the seventies and the basic structure hasn't changed since ;)

                                    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                    • S Sascha Lefevre

                                      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                      ### header
                                      001 value1
                                      002 value2
                                      010 value3
                                      300 value4

                                      header of next record

                                      (etc)

                                      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                      what do mean by exchange formats? fixed format, as in cobol comes to mind, or space delimited, or series data?

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                                        what do mean by exchange formats? fixed format, as in cobol comes to mind, or space delimited, or series data?

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                                        Sascha Lefevre
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                                        It's newline-delimited. I'm just wondering if there's a term for it, like CSV for comma-separated. What is your notion of series data?

                                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                        • S Sascha Lefevre

                                          It's newline-delimited. I'm just wondering if there's a term for it, like CSV for comma-separated. What is your notion of series data?

                                          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                          Isn't CSV technically newline-delimited as well as comma separated? I guess series data, I was thinking if it's ordered like time series, but none of the values are datetime. Not sure if that makes sense. Order Number Value 10 11.2 11 16.5 12 18.5

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