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  • S Sascha Lefevre

    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

    ### header
    001 value1
    002 value2
    010 value3
    300 value4

    header of next record

    (etc)

    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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    Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    • S Sascha Lefevre

      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

      ### header
      001 value1
      002 value2
      010 value3
      300 value4

      header of next record

      (etc)

      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      Headache

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        Headache

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        Sascha Lefevre
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        You have no idea! The general file format is the smallest of headaches - when you see the field descriptions the real headache starts: "215 : Indicates if the title is contained in field 300 or 315" might give you a small idea of it... X|

        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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        • S Sascha Lefevre

          In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

          ### header
          001 value1
          002 value2
          010 value3
          300 value4

          header of next record

          (etc)

          As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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          Chris Copeland
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          I believe the main term used when dealing with splitting content is "delimited". So, line-delimited values, or something?

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            Sascha Lefevre
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            I'm looking for a (possibly not existing) term for the file format, like CSV also refers to the file format (or layout if you will) although in-memory it would be a DataTable or whatever.

            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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            • S Sascha Lefevre

              You have no idea! The general file format is the smallest of headaches - when you see the field descriptions the real headache starts: "215 : Indicates if the title is contained in field 300 or 315" might give you a small idea of it... X|

              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              In that case Sascha's Delirium Tremens (SDT) may fit better... :-D

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                In that case Sascha's Delirium Tremens (SDT) may fit better... :-D

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                Sascha Lefevre
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                Right! :laugh: ;P

                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                • S Sascha Lefevre

                  In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                  ### header
                  001 value1
                  002 value2
                  010 value3
                  300 value4

                  header of next record

                  (etc)

                  As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                  Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                  Indexed-data file with line-separated values. ;P

                  The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                  • S Sascha Lefevre

                    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                    ### header
                    001 value1
                    002 value2
                    010 value3
                    300 value4

                    header of next record

                    (etc)

                    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                    Amarnath S
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                    Looking at the title, I thought that you were looking for a ... Term as a Faculty member in a University.

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                    • S Sascha Lefevre

                      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                      ### header
                      001 value1
                      002 value2
                      010 value3
                      300 value4

                      header of next record

                      (etc)

                      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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                        Sascha Lefevre
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                        Well.. they initialize the madness that will befall you when actually dealing with their semantic content.. :sigh:

                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                        • S Sascha Lefevre

                          In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                          ### header
                          001 value1
                          002 value2
                          010 value3
                          300 value4

                          header of next record

                          (etc)

                          As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                          Dr Walt Fair PE
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                          Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

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                          • S Sascha Lefevre

                            In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                            ### header
                            001 value1
                            002 value2
                            010 value3
                            300 value4

                            header of next record

                            (etc)

                            As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                            KarstenK
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                            Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

                            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                            • S Sascha Lefevre

                              In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                              ### header
                              001 value1
                              002 value2
                              010 value3
                              300 value4

                              header of next record

                              (etc)

                              As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                              Marco Bertschi
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                              It comes close to an ini file, but I'd go with Walt's columnar data term.

                              "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                              • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

                                CQ de W5ALT

                                Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                Sascha Lefevre
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                                #16

                                Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                                ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                                001 0000000913
                                003 20150612
                                004 20100526
                                030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                076eTourismus
                                100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                                104aGayler, Brigitte
                                331aAnimation im Urlaub
                                335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                                359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                                403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                                410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                                412 Oldenbourg
                                425a2003
                                433 IX, 340 S.
                                434 Ill.
                                451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                                540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                                568 03N052763
                                655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                                655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                                700 T::FIN
                                750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                                902 Animation
                                902 Urlaub
                                902 Handbuch

                                00044nM2.01000024 l

                                001 0000000913
                                003 20150612
                                004 20100526
                                012 0000000913
                                100 T 76
                                105 Bibliothek
                                120 00001465

                                00045nM2.01000024 h

                                001 0000000915
                                003 20150612
                                004 20100526
                                030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                076eTourismus
                                100 Schulz, Axel
                                331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                                335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                                359 von Axel Schulz
                                403 1. Auflage
                                410 Mnchen
                                412 Oldenbourg
                                425a2009
                                433 X, 342 S.
                                434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                                451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                                540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                                568 08N290333
                                655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                                655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                                655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                                700 T::SCHUL
                                750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

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                                • K KarstenK

                                  Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

                                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                  Sascha Lefevre
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                                  Yeah.. though I wish that'd be the major challenge here :laugh:

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

                                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    BillWoodruff
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                                    key-value pair data file

                                    «In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”

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                                    • S Sascha Lefevre

                                      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                      ### header
                                      001 value1
                                      002 value2
                                      010 value3
                                      300 value4

                                      header of next record

                                      (etc)

                                      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                      Gennady Oster
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                                      Distributed recordset ?

                                      My English is permanently under construction. Be patient !!

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                                      • S Sascha Lefevre

                                        Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                                        ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                                        001 0000000913
                                        003 20150612
                                        004 20100526
                                        030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                        076eTourismus
                                        100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                                        104aGayler, Brigitte
                                        331aAnimation im Urlaub
                                        335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                                        359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                                        403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                                        410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                                        412 Oldenbourg
                                        425a2003
                                        433 IX, 340 S.
                                        434 Ill.
                                        451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                        527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                                        540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                                        568 03N052763
                                        655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                                        655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                                        700 T::FIN
                                        750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                                        902 Animation
                                        902 Urlaub
                                        902 Handbuch

                                        00044nM2.01000024 l

                                        001 0000000913
                                        003 20150612
                                        004 20100526
                                        012 0000000913
                                        100 T 76
                                        105 Bibliothek
                                        120 00001465

                                        00045nM2.01000024 h

                                        001 0000000915
                                        003 20150612
                                        004 20100526
                                        030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                        076eTourismus
                                        100 Schulz, Axel
                                        331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                                        335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                                        359 von Axel Schulz
                                        403 1. Auflage
                                        410 Mnchen
                                        412 Oldenbourg
                                        425a2009
                                        433 X, 342 S.
                                        434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                                        451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                        501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                                        540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                                        568 08N290333
                                        655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                                        655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                                        655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                                        700 T::SCHUL
                                        750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

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                                        milo xml
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                                        I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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                                          Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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                                          This is the closest that comes to my mind. INI format is exactly what you've got there, except yours is missing the = sign between the key and value. You have section headers followed by a bunch of key value pairs that only apply to that section. Now you may not be using for configuration data, which is what INI format files are typically used for, but I don't think that's a requirement of the format per se.

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