Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Looking for a term

Looking for a term

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
questionlounge
34 Posts 19 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • S Sascha Lefevre

    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

    ### header
    001 value1
    002 value2
    010 value3
    300 value4

    header of next record

    (etc)

    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

    C Offline
    C Offline
    Chris Copeland
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    I believe the main term used when dealing with splitting content is "delimited". So, line-delimited values, or something?

    MQ / Tor.NET / Angry Potato

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

      S Offline
      S Offline
      Sascha Lefevre
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      I'm looking for a (possibly not existing) term for the file format, like CSV also refers to the file format (or layout if you will) although in-memory it would be a DataTable or whatever.

      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • S Sascha Lefevre

        You have no idea! The general file format is the smallest of headaches - when you see the field descriptions the real headache starts: "215 : Indicates if the title is contained in field 300 or 315" might give you a small idea of it... X|

        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

        Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Offline
        Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Offline
        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        In that case Sascha's Delirium Tremens (SDT) may fit better... :-D

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

        S 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          In that case Sascha's Delirium Tremens (SDT) may fit better... :-D

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

          S Offline
          S Offline
          Sascha Lefevre
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          Right! :laugh: ;P

          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • S Sascha Lefevre

            In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

            ### header
            001 value1
            002 value2
            010 value3
            300 value4

            header of next record

            (etc)

            As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

            A Offline
            A Offline
            Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            Indexed-data file with line-separated values. ;P

            The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • S Sascha Lefevre

              In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

              ### header
              001 value1
              002 value2
              010 value3
              300 value4

              header of next record

              (etc)

              As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

              A Offline
              A Offline
              Amarnath S
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              Looking at the title, I thought that you were looking for a ... Term as a Faculty member in a University.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • S Sascha Lefevre

                In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                ### header
                001 value1
                002 value2
                010 value3
                300 value4

                header of next record

                (etc)

                As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                P Offline
                P Offline
                PIEBALDconsult
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

                S V 2 Replies Last reply
                0
                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

                  S Offline
                  S Offline
                  Sascha Lefevre
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  Well.. they initialize the madness that will befall you when actually dealing with their semantic content.. :sigh:

                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • S Sascha Lefevre

                    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                    ### header
                    001 value1
                    002 value2
                    010 value3
                    300 value4

                    header of next record

                    (etc)

                    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                    D Offline
                    D Offline
                    Dr Walt Fair PE
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

                    CQ de W5ALT

                    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

                    S 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • S Sascha Lefevre

                      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                      ### header
                      001 value1
                      002 value2
                      010 value3
                      300 value4

                      header of next record

                      (etc)

                      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                      K Offline
                      K Offline
                      KarstenK
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

                      Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

                      S 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • S Sascha Lefevre

                        In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                        ### header
                        001 value1
                        002 value2
                        010 value3
                        300 value4

                        header of next record

                        (etc)

                        As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                        M Offline
                        M Offline
                        Marco Bertschi
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        It comes close to an ini file, but I'd go with Walt's columnar data term.

                        "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                          Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

                          CQ de W5ALT

                          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

                          S Offline
                          S Offline
                          Sascha Lefevre
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                          ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                          001 0000000913
                          003 20150612
                          004 20100526
                          030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                          076eTourismus
                          100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                          104aGayler, Brigitte
                          331aAnimation im Urlaub
                          335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                          359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                          403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                          410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                          412 Oldenbourg
                          425a2003
                          433 IX, 340 S.
                          434 Ill.
                          451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                          527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                          540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                          568 03N052763
                          655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                          655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                          700 T::FIN
                          750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                          902 Animation
                          902 Urlaub
                          902 Handbuch

                          00044nM2.01000024 l

                          001 0000000913
                          003 20150612
                          004 20100526
                          012 0000000913
                          100 T 76
                          105 Bibliothek
                          120 00001465

                          00045nM2.01000024 h

                          001 0000000915
                          003 20150612
                          004 20100526
                          030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                          076eTourismus
                          100 Schulz, Axel
                          331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                          335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                          359 von Axel Schulz
                          403 1. Auflage
                          410 Mnchen
                          412 Oldenbourg
                          425a2009
                          433 X, 342 S.
                          434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                          451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                          501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                          540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                          568 08N290333
                          655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                          655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                          655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                          700 T::SCHUL
                          750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

                          M 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • K KarstenK

                            Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

                            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

                            S Offline
                            S Offline
                            Sascha Lefevre
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            Yeah.. though I wish that'd be the major challenge here :laugh:

                            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

                              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

                              B Offline
                              B Offline
                              BillWoodruff
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              key-value pair data file

                              «In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • S Sascha Lefevre

                                In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                ### header
                                001 value1
                                002 value2
                                010 value3
                                300 value4

                                header of next record

                                (etc)

                                As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                                G Offline
                                G Offline
                                Gennady Oster
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                Distributed recordset ?

                                My English is permanently under construction. Be patient !!

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • S Sascha Lefevre

                                  Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                                  ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                                  001 0000000913
                                  003 20150612
                                  004 20100526
                                  030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                  076eTourismus
                                  100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                                  104aGayler, Brigitte
                                  331aAnimation im Urlaub
                                  335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                                  359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                                  403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                                  410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                                  412 Oldenbourg
                                  425a2003
                                  433 IX, 340 S.
                                  434 Ill.
                                  451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                  527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                                  540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                                  568 03N052763
                                  655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                                  655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                                  700 T::FIN
                                  750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                                  902 Animation
                                  902 Urlaub
                                  902 Handbuch

                                  00044nM2.01000024 l

                                  001 0000000913
                                  003 20150612
                                  004 20100526
                                  012 0000000913
                                  100 T 76
                                  105 Bibliothek
                                  120 00001465

                                  00045nM2.01000024 h

                                  001 0000000915
                                  003 20150612
                                  004 20100526
                                  030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                  076eTourismus
                                  100 Schulz, Axel
                                  331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                                  335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                                  359 von Axel Schulz
                                  403 1. Auflage
                                  410 Mnchen
                                  412 Oldenbourg
                                  425a2009
                                  433 X, 342 S.
                                  434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                                  451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                  501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                                  540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                                  568 08N290333
                                  655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                                  655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                                  655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                                  700 T::SCHUL
                                  750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

                                  M Offline
                                  M Offline
                                  milo xml
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

                                  S E 2 Replies Last reply
                                  0
                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

                                    V Offline
                                    V Offline
                                    Vark111
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    This is the closest that comes to my mind. INI format is exactly what you've got there, except yours is missing the = sign between the key and value. You have section headers followed by a bunch of key value pairs that only apply to that section. Now you may not be using for configuration data, which is what INI format files are typically used for, but I don't think that's a requirement of the format per se.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • S Sascha Lefevre

                                      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                      ### header
                                      001 value1
                                      002 value2
                                      010 value3
                                      300 value4

                                      header of next record

                                      (etc)

                                      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                                      K Offline
                                      K Offline
                                      Kirk 10389821
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      This reminds me of an EDI file. I assume it cannot handle a MULTI-LINE value. I assume only ONE value per line Since it has multiple record types inside one file, I agree that it looks like an INI file without equal signs, or [] sections. I would start by calling a single file with ONE set of values: A Space Delimited KEY VALUE file. But you could simplify it by calling it a Key Value file. The fact that multiple headers can exist, implies some level or hierarchy. So, I get to: Hierarchical Key Value File (Sounds nice and formal) or a Multi-Section Key Value File Organized Key Value File Multi Key Value File EDIType Key Value File Hopefully that gets you started Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

                                      S 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • M milo xml

                                        I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

                                        S Offline
                                        S Offline
                                        Sascha Lefevre
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        milo-xml wrote:

                                        Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

                                        The format originates from the seventies... X|

                                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • K Kirk 10389821

                                          This reminds me of an EDI file. I assume it cannot handle a MULTI-LINE value. I assume only ONE value per line Since it has multiple record types inside one file, I agree that it looks like an INI file without equal signs, or [] sections. I would start by calling a single file with ONE set of values: A Space Delimited KEY VALUE file. But you could simplify it by calling it a Key Value file. The fact that multiple headers can exist, implies some level or hierarchy. So, I get to: Hierarchical Key Value File (Sounds nice and formal) or a Multi-Section Key Value File Organized Key Value File Multi Key Value File EDIType Key Value File Hopefully that gets you started Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

                                          S Offline
                                          S Offline
                                          Sascha Lefevre
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          Yeah, I think I'll go with Key-Value file :)

                                          Kirk 10389821 wrote:

                                          Now are you going to design an event driven parser. Where each time it finds a header, it calls an event to get it parsed until the next hearder?

                                          I'll split it into Key-Value pairs first without caring for the values and then pass the list of Key-Value pairs to the next processing stage. I don't need events there but if someone who wants to use my reader-code from the Tip/Trick I'm going to write needs events he'll still be able to implement them on the list of Key-Value pairs ;)

                                          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups