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    Sascha Lefevre
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    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

    ### header
    001 value1
    002 value2
    010 value3
    300 value4

    header of next record

    (etc)

    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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    • S Sascha Lefevre

      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

      ### header
      001 value1
      002 value2
      010 value3
      300 value4

      header of next record

      (etc)

      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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      Sander Rossel
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      Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      • S Sascha Lefevre

        In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

        ### header
        001 value1
        002 value2
        010 value3
        300 value4

        header of next record

        (etc)

        As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        Headache

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          Headache

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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          Sascha Lefevre
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          You have no idea! The general file format is the smallest of headaches - when you see the field descriptions the real headache starts: "215 : Indicates if the title is contained in field 300 or 315" might give you a small idea of it... X|

          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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          • S Sascha Lefevre

            In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

            ### header
            001 value1
            002 value2
            010 value3
            300 value4

            header of next record

            (etc)

            As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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            Chris Copeland
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            I believe the main term used when dealing with splitting content is "delimited". So, line-delimited values, or something?

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              Sascha Lefevre
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              I'm looking for a (possibly not existing) term for the file format, like CSV also refers to the file format (or layout if you will) although in-memory it would be a DataTable or whatever.

              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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              • S Sascha Lefevre

                You have no idea! The general file format is the smallest of headaches - when you see the field descriptions the real headache starts: "215 : Indicates if the title is contained in field 300 or 315" might give you a small idea of it... X|

                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                In that case Sascha's Delirium Tremens (SDT) may fit better... :-D

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  In that case Sascha's Delirium Tremens (SDT) may fit better... :-D

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  Sascha Lefevre
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                  Right! :laugh: ;P

                  If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                  • S Sascha Lefevre

                    In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                    ### header
                    001 value1
                    002 value2
                    010 value3
                    300 value4

                    header of next record

                    (etc)

                    As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                    If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                    Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                    Indexed-data file with line-separated values. ;P

                    The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                    • S Sascha Lefevre

                      In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                      ### header
                      001 value1
                      002 value2
                      010 value3
                      300 value4

                      header of next record

                      (etc)

                      As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                      Looking at the title, I thought that you were looking for a ... Term as a Faculty member in a University.

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                      • S Sascha Lefevre

                        In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                        ### header
                        001 value1
                        002 value2
                        010 value3
                        300 value4

                        header of next record

                        (etc)

                        As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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                          Are you sure that's not an INI file? :suss:

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                          Sascha Lefevre
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                          Well.. they initialize the madness that will befall you when actually dealing with their semantic content.. :sigh:

                          If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                          • S Sascha Lefevre

                            In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                            ### header
                            001 value1
                            002 value2
                            010 value3
                            300 value4

                            header of next record

                            (etc)

                            As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                            If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                            Dr Walt Fair PE
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                            Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

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                            • S Sascha Lefevre

                              In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                              ### header
                              001 value1
                              002 value2
                              010 value3
                              300 value4

                              header of next record

                              (etc)

                              As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                              If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                              KarstenK
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                              Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

                              Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                              • S Sascha Lefevre

                                In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                ### header
                                001 value1
                                002 value2
                                010 value3
                                300 value4

                                header of next record

                                (etc)

                                As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                Marco Bertschi
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                                It comes close to an ini file, but I'd go with Walt's columnar data term.

                                "A property doesn't have to be a Property to be a property." - PIEBALDConsult

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                                • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                  Unless I{m missing something, it looks like columnar data to me.

                                  CQ de W5ALT

                                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                  Sascha Lefevre
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                                  Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                                  ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                                  001 0000000913
                                  003 20150612
                                  004 20100526
                                  030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                  076eTourismus
                                  100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                                  104aGayler, Brigitte
                                  331aAnimation im Urlaub
                                  335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                                  359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                                  403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                                  410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                                  412 Oldenbourg
                                  425a2003
                                  433 IX, 340 S.
                                  434 Ill.
                                  451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                  527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                                  540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                                  568 03N052763
                                  655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                                  655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                                  700 T::FIN
                                  750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                                  902 Animation
                                  902 Urlaub
                                  902 Handbuch

                                  00044nM2.01000024 l

                                  001 0000000913
                                  003 20150612
                                  004 20100526
                                  012 0000000913
                                  100 T 76
                                  105 Bibliothek
                                  120 00001465

                                  00045nM2.01000024 h

                                  001 0000000915
                                  003 20150612
                                  004 20100526
                                  030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                  076eTourismus
                                  100 Schulz, Axel
                                  331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                                  335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                                  359 von Axel Schulz
                                  403 1. Auflage
                                  410 Mnchen
                                  412 Oldenbourg
                                  425a2009
                                  433 X, 342 S.
                                  434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                                  451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                  501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                                  540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                                  568 08N290333
                                  655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                                  655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                                  655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                                  700 T::SCHUL
                                  750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

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                                  • K KarstenK

                                    Be sure to implement some robust error handling. :thumbsup: Remember: shit happens :rolleyes:

                                    Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                    Sascha Lefevre
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                                    Yeah.. though I wish that'd be the major challenge here :laugh:

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      Key-Value pairs? Dictionary? Hashtable? Associative array? Or am I missing something?

                                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                      Regards, Sander

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                                      BillWoodruff
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                                      key-value pair data file

                                      «In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”

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                                      • S Sascha Lefevre

                                        In the domain of my current project I'm dealing with exchange formats where records are saved with key-value pairs each in a separate line:

                                        ### header
                                        001 value1
                                        002 value2
                                        010 value3
                                        300 value4

                                        header of next record

                                        (etc)

                                        As I'm planning on writing a Tip/Trick on a general purpose reader for that kind of format I'm wondering if there is an existing term for this - something like "line separated values"? thanks, Sascha

                                        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                                        Gennady Oster
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                                        Distributed recordset ?

                                        My English is permanently under construction. Be patient !!

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                                        • S Sascha Lefevre

                                          Sounds good, though I'm a bit worried people might think it has anything to do with columnar databases... Please take a look - can you confirm the term "columnar" for this kind of file/record layout?:

                                          ### 00043nM2.01000024 h
                                          001 0000000913
                                          003 20150612
                                          004 20100526
                                          030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                          076eTourismus
                                          100 Finger-Benoit, Claus
                                          104aGayler, Brigitte
                                          331aAnimation im Urlaub
                                          335aHandbuch fr Planer und Praktiker
                                          359 Claus Finger ; Brigitte Gayler
                                          403 3., vollst. berarb. u. aktualis. Aufl.
                                          410 Mnchen [u. a.]
                                          412 Oldenbourg
                                          425a2003
                                          433 IX, 340 S.
                                          434 Ill.
                                          451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                          527z636517721 Digitalisierte Ausg. --->Animation im Urlaub
                                          540aISBN 978-3-486-27363-2 Pb.
                                          568 03N052763
                                          655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/hbz/toc/ht013645014.pdf
                                          655ehttp://d-nb.info/965931528/04
                                          700 T::FIN
                                          750cDas Standardwerk zur Urlaubs-Animation in dritter Auflage! Es ist ebenso ein Zeitdokument des modernen Tourismus, wie eine Handlungsanweisung zum animativen Urlaub fr Tourismusunternehmen, Studierende der Touristikstudieng„nge, G„stebetreuer und Urlauber. Aus dem Inhalt: Einleitung. Grundlagen der Animation. Urlaubserwartungen und Urlaubsaktivit„ten. Inhaltliche Bereiche der Animation im Urlaub. Die Person - der Animateur, die Animateurin. Grundlagen und Prinzipien der Animation. Systembeschreibungen - Beispiele realisierter Animation.
                                          902 Animation
                                          902 Urlaub
                                          902 Handbuch

                                          00044nM2.01000024 l

                                          001 0000000913
                                          003 20150612
                                          004 20100526
                                          012 0000000913
                                          100 T 76
                                          105 Bibliothek
                                          120 00001465

                                          00045nM2.01000024 h

                                          001 0000000915
                                          003 20150612
                                          004 20100526
                                          030 a|1ibr|a|||17
                                          076eTourismus
                                          100 Schulz, Axel
                                          331aVerkehrstr„ger im Tourismus
                                          335aLuftverkehr, Bahnverkehr, Straenverkehr, Schiffsverkehr
                                          359 von Axel Schulz
                                          403 1. Auflage
                                          410 Mnchen
                                          412 Oldenbourg
                                          425a2009
                                          433 X, 342 S.
                                          434 Ill., graph. Darst.
                                          451bLehr- und Handbcher zu Tourismus, Verkehr und Freizeit
                                          501 Literaturverz. S. [321] - 334
                                          540aISBN 978-3-486-58876-7 Gb. : 34,80 EUR
                                          568 08N290333
                                          655ehttp://deposit.d-nb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?id=3131366&prov=M&dok_var=1&dok_ext=htm
                                          655ehttp://www.gbv.de/dms/zbw/571624782.pdf
                                          655ehttp://d-nb.info/989417263/04
                                          700 T::SCHUL
                                          750cZiel des Lehrbuches ist es, einen umfassenden šberblick aller Arten von Verkehrstr„ger (Flug-, Bahn-, Straáen- und Schiffsverkehr) und deren Bedeutung im Tourismus zu geben. Hierzu wurde ein Referenzmodell fr alle Verkehrstr„ger entwickelt, welches aus den Grundelementen Mar

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                                          milo xml
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                                          I'd say yes, column delimited. You have three columns. Number, space or lower case letter, then the data. I'm assuming you have text wrap on in the case of line 750. Just odd that they didn't delimit it better.

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