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  • P pdohara

    Just out of interest what's my take away? What was the point? Was it a joke? You are a "Protector" so I am guessing you are on Code Project a great deal. I am wondering what the goal was. This is not me being snarky, I thought about trying to be snarky but I am not good at it. I tend to sound mean when I try to be snarky. Perhaps you were trying to be snarky? Not that you sounded mean. I really have no idea what to make of your post. I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds. Maybe not.

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    jeron1
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    He was joking for gods sake. The use of the word 'twitter' is an invitation for jokes here. That's the take away.

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    • P pdohara

      Perhaps it was not funny. I was not upset, just baffled.

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      Mark_Wallace
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      i.e. you didn't get the joke. It's the CP Lounge, eh? Look for a joke, before looking for trouble.

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      • P pdohara

        Take to twitter and let's see what people come up with. Or answer here, but keep it short, really short.

        Pat O

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        ... a great way to meet girls. Girls who signed up for a programming class accidently. And then realized that they couldn't do it (note that this does not include the great many female developers who actually rock!). Then realized that there were a bunch of guys eager to help them. :cool:

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          ... a great way to meet girls. Girls who signed up for a programming class accidently. And then realized that they couldn't do it (note that this does not include the great many female developers who actually rock!). Then realized that there were a bunch of guys eager to help them. :cool:

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          If only that would have been true in my day. :)

          Pat O

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            i.e. you didn't get the joke. It's the CP Lounge, eh? Look for a joke, before looking for trouble.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            pdohara
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            Still don't, but don't explain it. It's never funny if you have to explain it. :)

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            • L Lost User

              Just going out on a limb here but I suspect Marc was in fact being snarky while trying to express the sentiment that #SoftwareDevelopmentIs way too broad a subject to sum up in 140 characters.

              There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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              Marc Clifton
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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              Just going out on a limb here but I suspect Marc was in fact being snarky while trying to express the sentiment that #SoftwareDevelopmentIs way too broad a subject to sum up in 140 characters.

              Bingo Marc

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              • P pdohara

                Just out of interest what's my take away? What was the point? Was it a joke? You are a "Protector" so I am guessing you are on Code Project a great deal. I am wondering what the goal was. This is not me being snarky, I thought about trying to be snarky but I am not good at it. I tend to sound mean when I try to be snarky. Perhaps you were trying to be snarky? Not that you sounded mean. I really have no idea what to make of your post. I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds. Maybe not.

                Pat O

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                Marc Clifton
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                Yes, snarky. :) Actually, I totally forgot to click on the "joke" icon.

                pdohara wrote:

                I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds.

                Dang, you are TOO nice. OK, here goes: Software Development is the process, partly art, partly science, in which a repeatable (albeit possibly highly complex) process (notice the fractalization?) is analyzed sufficiently such that the process can be reproduced in code, including accounting for random events such as user input. A bit more than the 140 character limit, but it's hard to get the entire concept whittled down to its bare essentials. [edit] I should get brownie points for what I think is actually the first serious answer you've gotten. [/edit] Marc

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                • P pdohara

                  Take to twitter and let's see what people come up with. Or answer here, but keep it short, really short.

                  Pat O

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                  "The gap between theory and practice is smaller in theory than in practice" ~Don't remember who

                  it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Yes, snarky. :) Actually, I totally forgot to click on the "joke" icon.

                    pdohara wrote:

                    I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds.

                    Dang, you are TOO nice. OK, here goes: Software Development is the process, partly art, partly science, in which a repeatable (albeit possibly highly complex) process (notice the fractalization?) is analyzed sufficiently such that the process can be reproduced in code, including accounting for random events such as user input. A bit more than the 140 character limit, but it's hard to get the entire concept whittled down to its bare essentials. [edit] I should get brownie points for what I think is actually the first serious answer you've gotten. [/edit] Marc

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                    pdohara
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                    Thanks, Precisely the kind of thing I was looking for.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Yes, snarky. :) Actually, I totally forgot to click on the "joke" icon.

                      pdohara wrote:

                      I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds.

                      Dang, you are TOO nice. OK, here goes: Software Development is the process, partly art, partly science, in which a repeatable (albeit possibly highly complex) process (notice the fractalization?) is analyzed sufficiently such that the process can be reproduced in code, including accounting for random events such as user input. A bit more than the 140 character limit, but it's hard to get the entire concept whittled down to its bare essentials. [edit] I should get brownie points for what I think is actually the first serious answer you've gotten. [/edit] Marc

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                      pdohara
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                      First "serious" answer here. I appreciate that this is the Lounge and Jokes are pretty normal. I really did not get it as a Joke, and still don't. I appreciate that people here think twitter is a Joke, just as people on stack overflow think that Code Project is a joke. At least those that have heard of Code Project. I tend not to pay attention to what is common knowledge. In any situation there are any number of things that are obvious, intuitive and wrong. :)

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                      • P pdohara

                        Just out of interest what's my take away? What was the point? Was it a joke? You are a "Protector" so I am guessing you are on Code Project a great deal. I am wondering what the goal was. This is not me being snarky, I thought about trying to be snarky but I am not good at it. I tend to sound mean when I try to be snarky. Perhaps you were trying to be snarky? Not that you sounded mean. I really have no idea what to make of your post. I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds. Maybe not.

                        Pat O

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                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                        It seems you didn't got the idea of the Lounge...Nothing serious here (except the RIP posts)...

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                        • P pdohara

                          Take to twitter and let's see what people come up with. Or answer here, but keep it short, really short.

                          Pat O

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                          140 chars, on twitter?

                          #softwaredevelopmentis #wow #selfie #atwork #fashion #me #good #banana #ugh #ugh #freekazzbekistan #thuglife #queer

                          GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre /xml>

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            Except the ones who bolted.

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                            Johnny J
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                            You mean it's possible to get out of here alive? :confused:

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                            • P pdohara

                              A one or two sentence description of what Software Development is.

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                              Johnny J
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                              Again what Maximilien asked: Why? :confused:

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                              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                It seems you didn't got the idea of the Lounge...Nothing serious here (except the RIP posts)...

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                                Johnny J
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                                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                except the RIP posts

                                And not even those all the time... By the way, did you hear the Leslie Nielsen died? Oh, and I know this is a repost, but I still like this one a lot: Version 1[^] Version 2[^] Version 3[^]

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                                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                  except the RIP posts

                                  And not even those all the time... By the way, did you hear the Leslie Nielsen died? Oh, and I know this is a repost, but I still like this one a lot: Version 1[^] Version 2[^] Version 3[^]

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                                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                  My post wasn't a RIP post, so it wasn't serious...including the 'RIP posts' part...Especially the 'RIP posts' part... :laugh:

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                                  • P pdohara

                                    First "serious" answer here. I appreciate that this is the Lounge and Jokes are pretty normal. I really did not get it as a Joke, and still don't. I appreciate that people here think twitter is a Joke, just as people on stack overflow think that Code Project is a joke. At least those that have heard of Code Project. I tend not to pay attention to what is common knowledge. In any situation there are any number of things that are obvious, intuitive and wrong. :)

                                    Pat O

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    The lounge is one of those places where one has to tread carefully as there can definitely be a high degree of hazing (perhaps too strong a word) that goes on. I'm curious, why were you interested in this "Software Development Is" survey? Marc

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                                    • J Johnny J

                                      Again what Maximilien asked: Why? :confused:

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                                      pdohara
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                                      Because I am interested in your opinion or how you would describe what you do.

                                      Pat O

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        The lounge is one of those places where one has to tread carefully as there can definitely be a high degree of hazing (perhaps too strong a word) that goes on. I'm curious, why were you interested in this "Software Development Is" survey? Marc

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                                        pdohara
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                                        Despite my 30+ years in the industry I am not naive to the fact that there are corners I have not spent time in. I am wondering about other peoples experience. The idea of using twitter came from: 1) The twitter discussion between Ron Jefferies [^], Robert Martin [^] and Gregory Brown Gregory Brown (@practicingdev) | Twitter[^] about Uncle Bob's Programmers OathClean Coder Blog[^]. Obviously missed it when it originally came out. 2) I did not think most people would put in the time to write a "complete" answer just for my curiosity. 3) I wanted to hear from people that I do not know. Obviously I can ask my friends and co-workers. 4) I believe there is power in forcing oneself to be concise. 5) I do not have sufficient interest to read even 15 pages from each of my friends on the subject, much less from a larger audience.

                                        Pat O

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                                        • D den2k88

                                          140 chars, on twitter?

                                          #softwaredevelopmentis #wow #selfie #atwork #fashion #me #good #banana #ugh #ugh #freekazzbekistan #thuglife #queer

                                          GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre /xml>

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                                          pdohara
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                                          If you like, or something of similar size here. Honestly this was a lark, and I have already spent more time explaining it then I had planned. I thought it was interesting and wanted to know what others here (many with a great deal of experience and some with little experience) thought about what software development is. :)

                                          Pat O

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