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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    ... a great way to meet girls. Girls who signed up for a programming class accidently. And then realized that they couldn't do it (note that this does not include the great many female developers who actually rock!). Then realized that there were a bunch of guys eager to help them. :cool:

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    pdohara
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    If only that would have been true in my day. :)

    Pat O

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      i.e. you didn't get the joke. It's the CP Lounge, eh? Look for a joke, before looking for trouble.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      pdohara
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      Still don't, but don't explain it. It's never funny if you have to explain it. :)

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      • L Lost User

        Just going out on a limb here but I suspect Marc was in fact being snarky while trying to express the sentiment that #SoftwareDevelopmentIs way too broad a subject to sum up in 140 characters.

        There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.

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        Marc Clifton
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        Mike Mullikin wrote:

        Just going out on a limb here but I suspect Marc was in fact being snarky while trying to express the sentiment that #SoftwareDevelopmentIs way too broad a subject to sum up in 140 characters.

        Bingo Marc

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        • P pdohara

          Just out of interest what's my take away? What was the point? Was it a joke? You are a "Protector" so I am guessing you are on Code Project a great deal. I am wondering what the goal was. This is not me being snarky, I thought about trying to be snarky but I am not good at it. I tend to sound mean when I try to be snarky. Perhaps you were trying to be snarky? Not that you sounded mean. I really have no idea what to make of your post. I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds. Maybe not.

          Pat O

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          Marc Clifton
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          Yes, snarky. :) Actually, I totally forgot to click on the "joke" icon.

          pdohara wrote:

          I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds.

          Dang, you are TOO nice. OK, here goes: Software Development is the process, partly art, partly science, in which a repeatable (albeit possibly highly complex) process (notice the fractalization?) is analyzed sufficiently such that the process can be reproduced in code, including accounting for random events such as user input. A bit more than the 140 character limit, but it's hard to get the entire concept whittled down to its bare essentials. [edit] I should get brownie points for what I think is actually the first serious answer you've gotten. [/edit] Marc

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          • P pdohara

            Take to twitter and let's see what people come up with. Or answer here, but keep it short, really short.

            Pat O

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            Lost User
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            "The gap between theory and practice is smaller in theory than in practice" ~Don't remember who

            it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Yes, snarky. :) Actually, I totally forgot to click on the "joke" icon.

              pdohara wrote:

              I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds.

              Dang, you are TOO nice. OK, here goes: Software Development is the process, partly art, partly science, in which a repeatable (albeit possibly highly complex) process (notice the fractalization?) is analyzed sufficiently such that the process can be reproduced in code, including accounting for random events such as user input. A bit more than the 140 character limit, but it's hard to get the entire concept whittled down to its bare essentials. [edit] I should get brownie points for what I think is actually the first serious answer you've gotten. [/edit] Marc

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              pdohara
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              Thanks, Precisely the kind of thing I was looking for.

              Pat O

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Yes, snarky. :) Actually, I totally forgot to click on the "joke" icon.

                pdohara wrote:

                I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds.

                Dang, you are TOO nice. OK, here goes: Software Development is the process, partly art, partly science, in which a repeatable (albeit possibly highly complex) process (notice the fractalization?) is analyzed sufficiently such that the process can be reproduced in code, including accounting for random events such as user input. A bit more than the 140 character limit, but it's hard to get the entire concept whittled down to its bare essentials. [edit] I should get brownie points for what I think is actually the first serious answer you've gotten. [/edit] Marc

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                First "serious" answer here. I appreciate that this is the Lounge and Jokes are pretty normal. I really did not get it as a Joke, and still don't. I appreciate that people here think twitter is a Joke, just as people on stack overflow think that Code Project is a joke. At least those that have heard of Code Project. I tend not to pay attention to what is common knowledge. In any situation there are any number of things that are obvious, intuitive and wrong. :)

                Pat O

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                • P pdohara

                  Just out of interest what's my take away? What was the point? Was it a joke? You are a "Protector" so I am guessing you are on Code Project a great deal. I am wondering what the goal was. This is not me being snarky, I thought about trying to be snarky but I am not good at it. I tend to sound mean when I try to be snarky. Perhaps you were trying to be snarky? Not that you sounded mean. I really have no idea what to make of your post. I feel like I should pay attention cause you have creds. Maybe not.

                  Pat O

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  It seems you didn't got the idea of the Lounge...Nothing serious here (except the RIP posts)...

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                  • P pdohara

                    Take to twitter and let's see what people come up with. Or answer here, but keep it short, really short.

                    Pat O

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                    140 chars, on twitter?

                    #softwaredevelopmentis #wow #selfie #atwork #fashion #me #good #banana #ugh #ugh #freekazzbekistan #thuglife #queer

                    GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre /xml>

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Except the ones who bolted.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Johnny J
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                      You mean it's possible to get out of here alive? :confused:

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                      • P pdohara

                        A one or two sentence description of what Software Development is.

                        Pat O

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                        Johnny J
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                        Again what Maximilien asked: Why? :confused:

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          It seems you didn't got the idea of the Lounge...Nothing serious here (except the RIP posts)...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                          except the RIP posts

                          And not even those all the time... By the way, did you hear the Leslie Nielsen died? Oh, and I know this is a repost, but I still like this one a lot: Version 1[^] Version 2[^] Version 3[^]

                          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                          Anonymous
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                          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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                          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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                            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                            except the RIP posts

                            And not even those all the time... By the way, did you hear the Leslie Nielsen died? Oh, and I know this is a repost, but I still like this one a lot: Version 1[^] Version 2[^] Version 3[^]

                            Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                            The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                            Winston Churchill, 1944
                            -----
                            I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                            Me, all the time

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                            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                            My post wasn't a RIP post, so it wasn't serious...including the 'RIP posts' part...Especially the 'RIP posts' part... :laugh:

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            • P pdohara

                              First "serious" answer here. I appreciate that this is the Lounge and Jokes are pretty normal. I really did not get it as a Joke, and still don't. I appreciate that people here think twitter is a Joke, just as people on stack overflow think that Code Project is a joke. At least those that have heard of Code Project. I tend not to pay attention to what is common knowledge. In any situation there are any number of things that are obvious, intuitive and wrong. :)

                              Pat O

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              The lounge is one of those places where one has to tread carefully as there can definitely be a high degree of hazing (perhaps too strong a word) that goes on. I'm curious, why were you interested in this "Software Development Is" survey? Marc

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                                Again what Maximilien asked: Why? :confused:

                                Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                                Me, all the time

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                                Because I am interested in your opinion or how you would describe what you do.

                                Pat O

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  The lounge is one of those places where one has to tread carefully as there can definitely be a high degree of hazing (perhaps too strong a word) that goes on. I'm curious, why were you interested in this "Software Development Is" survey? Marc

                                  Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project!

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                                  Despite my 30+ years in the industry I am not naive to the fact that there are corners I have not spent time in. I am wondering about other peoples experience. The idea of using twitter came from: 1) The twitter discussion between Ron Jefferies [^], Robert Martin [^] and Gregory Brown Gregory Brown (@practicingdev) | Twitter[^] about Uncle Bob's Programmers OathClean Coder Blog[^]. Obviously missed it when it originally came out. 2) I did not think most people would put in the time to write a "complete" answer just for my curiosity. 3) I wanted to hear from people that I do not know. Obviously I can ask my friends and co-workers. 4) I believe there is power in forcing oneself to be concise. 5) I do not have sufficient interest to read even 15 pages from each of my friends on the subject, much less from a larger audience.

                                  Pat O

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                                  • D den2k88

                                    140 chars, on twitter?

                                    #softwaredevelopmentis #wow #selfie #atwork #fashion #me #good #banana #ugh #ugh #freekazzbekistan #thuglife #queer

                                    GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver "When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre /xml>

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                                    If you like, or something of similar size here. Honestly this was a lark, and I have already spent more time explaining it then I had planned. I thought it was interesting and wanted to know what others here (many with a great deal of experience and some with little experience) thought about what software development is. :)

                                    Pat O

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