Hole Earth
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http://www.holeearth.net/[^] Part of an exhibition by the local artists[^] near where I live. I think art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow, that is so profound." As my girlfriend said, psychology comes close. [edit] And on this page[^] (website by one of the artist/producers): > Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you, and at the bottom of the page: > Comments You do not have permission to add comments. Ah, the irony! Actually, I probably have something to do with that. I once posted a comment on a YouTube video that was, well, let's just say, not very complementary. After that, comments were closed, and that now seems to be the norm. :laugh: [/edit] Marc
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Some people couldn't have a genuinely original thought if they were left to do nothing but try for twenty years. Plenty of people are willing to say that every mindless, pointless idea they have is great and creative, though -- especially when other people later see meanings in the "work" that the "artist" hadn't thought of.
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But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing. If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so. It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious. And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim. You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
make money for nothing
That's kind of an art, one that I'm unfortunately not very good at.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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In what way is he right ? He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting. He does not like what Marc linked to and by extension, good for OG, there are tons of artists I don't like their artwork, but I just don't go out and be insulting and dismissive of their career and work portfolio.
I'd rather be phishing!
Maximilien wrote:
In what way is he right
In about every single word. But that's my opinion, you're of course entitled to your own.
Maximilien wrote:
He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting.
I disagree, he's simply calling a spade a spade. I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
make money for nothing
That's kind of an art, one that I'm unfortunately not very good at.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
I believe it's called "con-art". I's closely associated with con-stipation (for the victims) and con-vict for the perpetrators).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing. If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so. It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious. And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim. You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing. If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so. It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious. And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim. You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so.
Why not. Technical ability is not a necessity for a piece of art to be meaningful (achieve emotional response, which is what art should be) to people;
I'd rather be phishing!
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http://www.holeearth.net/[^] Part of an exhibition by the local artists[^] near where I live. I think art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow, that is so profound." As my girlfriend said, psychology comes close. [edit] And on this page[^] (website by one of the artist/producers): > Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you, and at the bottom of the page: > Comments You do not have permission to add comments. Ah, the irony! Actually, I probably have something to do with that. I once posted a comment on a YouTube video that was, well, let's just say, not very complementary. After that, comments were closed, and that now seems to be the norm. :laugh: [/edit] Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
:thumbsup: It is a fun piece of art; I like it.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I believe it's called "con-art". I's closely associated with con-stipation (for the victims) and con-vict for the perpetrators).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
I believe it's called "con-art".
I'd agree, if the person selling is claiming that something is what it is not, that's not the case here. If someone wants to pay for that 'art', let em. I only wish I could get in on that action.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Maximilien wrote:
In what way is he right
In about every single word. But that's my opinion, you're of course entitled to your own.
Maximilien wrote:
He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting.
I disagree, he's simply calling a spade a spade. I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.
Why do you care if it is privately donated money? everyone is free to do as he please with his money :confused: Most work of art were and are paid by patrons[^]. Most governments also give out grants to artists the same way they give out grants to scientists and industries. Publicly funded arts bolster the UK economy, study finds | Culture | The Guardian[^]
I'd rather be phishing!
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Exactly! Victor Borge, God rest his soul, was exactly the kind of genius I had in mind.
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