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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    More pretentious twaddle by talentless twits.

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    Slacker007
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    More pretentious twaddle by talentless twits.

    :thumbsup: Artsy fartsy people :shrugs shoulders:

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    • M Maximilien

      With a comment like OG just made, no wonder people close the comments on their web site.

      I'd rather be phishing!

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      Slacker007
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      I agree with Griff. IMHO, this is not art, this is a colossal waste of time and human effort.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        http://www.holeearth.net/[^] Part of an exhibition by the local artists[^] near where I live. I think art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow, that is so profound." As my girlfriend said, psychology comes close. [edit] And on this page[^] (website by one of the artist/producers): > Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you, and at the bottom of the page: > Comments You do not have permission to add comments. Ah, the irony! Actually, I probably have something to do with that. I once posted a comment on a YouTube video that was, well, let's just say, not very complementary. After that, comments were closed, and that now seems to be the norm. :laugh: [/edit] Marc

        Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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        Kevin Marois
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        If that's art then Golf is a sport

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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        • M Marc Clifton

          http://www.holeearth.net/[^] Part of an exhibition by the local artists[^] near where I live. I think art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow, that is so profound." As my girlfriend said, psychology comes close. [edit] And on this page[^] (website by one of the artist/producers): > Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you, and at the bottom of the page: > Comments You do not have permission to add comments. Ah, the irony! Actually, I probably have something to do with that. I once posted a comment on a YouTube video that was, well, let's just say, not very complementary. After that, comments were closed, and that now seems to be the norm. :laugh: [/edit] Marc

          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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          Sander Rossel
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          Some guy once put a urinal in a museum[^] and called it art. The worst part is that, in artistic circles, it's a highly esteemed work of art. And what about John Cage who sat on stage, behind his piano, and did absolutely nothing for a good four minutes[^]. Said he "composed silence"... As it happens I have a bachelor in Common Art and Cultural Sciences. The bachelor is pretty cool (it's about "what is art", "what drives artists", "how does art shape society and/or vice versa"), the arts not so much :)

          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

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          Regards, Sander

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          • M Marc Clifton

            http://www.holeearth.net/[^] Part of an exhibition by the local artists[^] near where I live. I think art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow, that is so profound." As my girlfriend said, psychology comes close. [edit] And on this page[^] (website by one of the artist/producers): > Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you, and at the bottom of the page: > Comments You do not have permission to add comments. Ah, the irony! Actually, I probably have something to do with that. I once posted a comment on a YouTube video that was, well, let's just say, not very complementary. After that, comments were closed, and that now seems to be the norm. :laugh: [/edit] Marc

            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            The problem is that we are (collectively) rich enough to be able to support such wastes of oxygen without counting the cost. In some cases, such support even comes from the public purse! In earlier times they would never have found patrons, and would therefore have either starved in their garrets or had to work for their livings.

            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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            • M Maximilien

              In what way is he right ? He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting. He does not like what Marc linked to and by extension, good for OG, there are tons of artists I don't like their artwork, but I just don't go out and be insulting and dismissive of their career and work portfolio.

              I'd rather be phishing!

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              Mark_Wallace
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              But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing. If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so. It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious. And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim. You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • M Marc Clifton

                http://www.holeearth.net/[^] Part of an exhibition by the local artists[^] near where I live. I think art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow, that is so profound." As my girlfriend said, psychology comes close. [edit] And on this page[^] (website by one of the artist/producers): > Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you, and at the bottom of the page: > Comments You do not have permission to add comments. Ah, the irony! Actually, I probably have something to do with that. I once posted a comment on a YouTube video that was, well, let's just say, not very complementary. After that, comments were closed, and that now seems to be the norm. :laugh: [/edit] Marc

                Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Some people couldn't have a genuinely original thought if they were left to do nothing but try for twenty years. Plenty of people are willing to say that every mindless, pointless idea they have is great and creative, though -- especially when other people later see meanings in the "work" that the "artist" hadn't thought of.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing. If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so. It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious. And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim. You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  jeron1
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                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  make money for nothing

                  That's kind of an art, one that I'm unfortunately not very good at.

                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                  • M Maximilien

                    In what way is he right ? He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting. He does not like what Marc linked to and by extension, good for OG, there are tons of artists I don't like their artwork, but I just don't go out and be insulting and dismissive of their career and work portfolio.

                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    Maximilien wrote:

                    In what way is he right

                    In about every single word. But that's my opinion, you're of course entitled to your own.

                    Maximilien wrote:

                    He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting.

                    I disagree, he's simply calling a spade a spade. I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      make money for nothing

                      That's kind of an art, one that I'm unfortunately not very good at.

                      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      I believe it's called "con-art". I's closely associated with con-stipation (for the victims) and con-vict for the perpetrators).

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing. If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so. It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious. And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim. You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                        but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious

                        Made me think of this[^]

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          But the portfolio of an artist has to display his level of skill and training, not just (what some might call) brainfart ideas to make money for nothing. If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so. It's like, I can play the piano badly, and that might get a few giggles because I'm a nobody where pianos are concerned, but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious. And if he intentionally plays eccentrically, to invoke unexpected feelings, then it's genius; but if I piddle about with the keys and invoke unexpected feelings, I don't call it art, because I don't have the skill, knowledge, or ability to back up such a claim. You have to master a craft, before you can expand it.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Maximilien
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                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so.

                          Why not. Technical ability is not a necessity for a piece of art to be meaningful (achieve emotional response, which is what art should be) to people;

                          I'd rather be phishing!

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            http://www.holeearth.net/[^] Part of an exhibition by the local artists[^] near where I live. I think art is the only "profession" where you can produce something utterly meaningless and have people exclaim "wow, that is so profound." As my girlfriend said, psychology comes close. [edit] And on this page[^] (website by one of the artist/producers): > Thanks and we look forward to hearing from you, and at the bottom of the page: > Comments You do not have permission to add comments. Ah, the irony! Actually, I probably have something to do with that. I once posted a comment on a YouTube video that was, well, let's just say, not very complementary. After that, comments were closed, and that now seems to be the norm. :laugh: [/edit] Marc

                            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                            Maximilien
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                            :thumbsup: It is a fun piece of art; I like it.

                            I'd rather be phishing!

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              I believe it's called "con-art". I's closely associated with con-stipation (for the victims) and con-vict for the perpetrators).

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              jeron1
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                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              I believe it's called "con-art".

                              I'd agree, if the person selling is claiming that something is what it is not, that's not the case here. If someone wants to pay for that 'art', let em. I only wish I could get in on that action.

                              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                              • J Jorgen Andersson

                                Maximilien wrote:

                                In what way is he right

                                In about every single word. But that's my opinion, you're of course entitled to your own.

                                Maximilien wrote:

                                He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting.

                                I disagree, he's simply calling a spade a spade. I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                Maximilien
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                                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.

                                Why do you care if it is privately donated money? everyone is free to do as he please with his money :confused: Most work of art were and are paid by patrons[^]. Most governments also give out grants to artists the same way they give out grants to scientists and industries. Publicly funded arts bolster the UK economy, study finds | Culture | The Guardian[^]

                                I'd rather be phishing!

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                                • J Jorgen Andersson

                                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                  but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious

                                  Made me think of this[^]

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Exactly! Victor Borge, God rest his soul, was exactly the kind of genius I had in mind.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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