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  • R Richard Stringer

    Gary Kirkham wrote: Believing in the existance of aliens, IMHO, requires as much faith as believing in God. Not even close to the truth. You cannot produce God so it takes a bit of faith to believe in his existance but life is all around you - it is not ambigious in nature. Richard PS: We are probably gonna find some type of life, either still viable or extinct, on Mars. In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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    Richard Stringer wrote: Not even close to the truth. So, produce an alien...You can't! Probably never will. You can't show me proof of life on other planets any more than I can show you proof that God exists. You simply believe they exist>>>>Look up the definition of faith. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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      Konstantin Vasserman wrote: religion is the primary reason they cannot accept the fact that the chances are that there are many alien life forms in the universe. I am not sure about religions other than Christianity, but I don't think that there is anything in the Bible that would preclude life on other planets...But then I am not a theologian. As far as I am concerned, until one of those little green buggers takes me into their ship and hooks up the electrodes, I'm not going to believe they exist. Believing in the existance of aliens, IMHO, requires as much faith as believing in God. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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      Gary Kirkham wrote: As far as I am concerned, until one of those little green buggers takes me into their ship and hooks up the electrodes, I'm not going to believe they exist. I thought the current theory involved anal probing but no electrodes. ;P Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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        Gary Kirkham wrote: As far as I am concerned, until one of those little green buggers takes me into their ship and hooks up the electrodes, I'm not going to believe they exist. I thought the current theory involved anal probing but no electrodes. ;P Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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        :omg: :eek: Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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          :omg: :eek: Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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          Gary Kirkham wrote: :omg: :eek: I take it you don't watch the South Park documentaries. :-D Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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          • P Paul Watson

            I like to think and do think that there is other life out there, including intelligent life (though we in our infinite human wisdom may not notice that it is intelligent.) One other point is the whole Life Must Be Like Us issue which leaves a bad taste in my mouth. How dare we assume that the only possible life has to be like us (us as in life on Earth, i.e. DNA, carbon based, requires oxygen etc.)

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            Paul Watson wrote: How dare we assume that this odd-looking mould in my coffee maker isn't an intelligent and advanced civilization? Well, two reasons: 1) although a book could probably be written about its complex and violent political battles, the movie rights would be hard to sell, and 2) i need to clean my coffee maker, and i'd rather not have ethical concerns added to the other reasons keeping me from doing it... ---

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              Chris Losinger wrote: there could be life elsewhere, but, IMO, until there's proof, nothing is lost by assuming there isn't. Are you sure you are talking about aliens and not god? ;) -- Sometimes I feel nobody gives me no warning Find my head is always up in the clouds in a dreamworld

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              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Are you sure you are talking about aliens and not god? aliens, god, unicorns, loch ness monster, etc.. -c


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                Colin Davies wrote: I know you are joking, but how would someone prove God ? Actually I was serious. I would be very pleased if CG or any of the other believers could show me the proof that they have recieved. I don't believe there is a God, but I do think it would be a marvelous and amazing thing if there were.

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                Paul Watson wrote: I do think it would be a marvelous and amazing thing if there were. God does not want us to see Heaven because we will demand term limits for his position :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  There are billions and billions of stars stars in our galaxy and there are billions of galaxies like ours out there. Only a baby would say (if it knew how to speak of course) that earth is the only planet with life. Yet I find that there are unbelievers everywhere. Just wanted to know how of you believe there are alien life forms out there. The others (if they decide to participate in this thread) please give valid reasonable points. And kindly dont mention religion, god and brit spears. Nish


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                  There's probably another version of you typing this into another version of CP somewhere a couple of billion light years away. The numbers add up so I would say it is definitely a possibility. The sheer size of the universe is so mind-boggling to me that I almost can't cope with it. Especially since we have a top speed of 3x10^8 m/s and that just doesn't get you anywhere fast in this universe. I am confused, has britney spears submitted a recent paper on cosmology? ;) Ad. My world tour What I do now.. "I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" George Best.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Paul Watt wrote: Whats natural law? How do you see evolution as illogical? Things naturally tend from order to chaos without outside influence. They do not tend from chaos to order. That's what I meant by natural law. However, it's far from the only reason that evolution is more religion than science. Paul Watt wrote: What about life on other moons Like I said, if they find it, I will believe it. I have no religious problem with life, if they find it. I just have no belief in a system of accidental life, which does not make the number of planets out there a reason for me to believe in alien life without proof. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                    Christian Graus wrote: Things naturally tend from order to chaos without outside influence. They do not tend from chaos to order. I won't pretend I understand physics very well but I think that while a system as a whole does move from order to chaos on its own, there may be a movement from chaos to order in some small "pockets" or "regions". But overall, the chaos, or entropy, tends to increase. The only reason that chaos increases is that it is statistically and probablistically (does such a word exist?) more likely to happen than atoms/elements of the system aligning themselves in perfect order. There are very few "well ordered" states, while the number of chaotic states is infinite. So statistically speaking, it is more likely for a system to end up in a more chaotic state. But this doesn't mean that it is completely unlikely, or impossible, for order to prevail, at least in small pockets. Maybe someone who understand physics will tell me if I am right or wrong? But if what I said above is right, you cannot dismiss evolution or "accidental life" just on the basis of this reason. You may have other reasons though, and I'm curious to hear about those. Christian Graus wrote: if they find it, I will believe it. :laugh: No offence, but you will have to believe it if they find it. Religion or no religion. But anyway, as you or someone else said elsewhere, religion does not confirm nor deny life on other planets. Perhaps because it was inconcievable for the authors of the religious books. Please note that I'm not talking about any particular religion, so don't get offended.
                    Regards,

                    Rohit Sinha

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Rohit  Sinha wrote: I agree that it's interesting to put forward your opinions and share ideas Exactemo! Or Exactement. One of them. Mike will know better. One is the spelling,m the other is the pronounciation. Nish


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                      Exactemento! I think "-mento" is similar to "-ly" in English. Although my Spanish is very poor I remember something like this from Middle School. BW "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                        A 5 for Britney Spears as proof of alien life :laugh: Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Trollslayer wrote: A 5 for Britney Spears as proof of alien life Well, after so many replies it took a woman to get the intended but disguised joke I tried to crack by vaguely indicating that Ms Spears was sorta alien-ish :-) Thanks Elaine :rose: Nish


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                          There's probably another version of you typing this into another version of CP somewhere a couple of billion light years away. The numbers add up so I would say it is definitely a possibility. The sheer size of the universe is so mind-boggling to me that I almost can't cope with it. Especially since we have a top speed of 3x10^8 m/s and that just doesn't get you anywhere fast in this universe. I am confused, has britney spears submitted a recent paper on cosmology? ;) Ad. My world tour What I do now.. "I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" George Best.

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                          adamUK wrote: There's probably another version of you typing this into another version of CP somewhere a couple of billion light years away. Ah yes, that old sci-fi writers' favorite theory of parallel universes eh? Or do you mean there are so many out there that the probability for another Nish-like alien doing a posting-like-operation on a CP-like website-like entity through an internet-like communication medium is high enough not to fully ignore? Nish


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                            Exactemento! I think "-mento" is similar to "-ly" in English. Although my Spanish is very poor I remember something like this from Middle School. BW "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                            brianwelsch wrote: Exactemento That is spanish. I mean "exactement" which is a french word which is pronounced as "exactemoh" Nish


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                              brianwelsch wrote: Exactemento That is spanish. I mean "exactement" which is a french word which is pronounced as "exactemoh" Nish


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                              Well, that would totally different, then. :-O I assumed, since you were so close to Mexico, you were talking about Spanish. BW "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                                adamUK wrote: There's probably another version of you typing this into another version of CP somewhere a couple of billion light years away. Ah yes, that old sci-fi writers' favorite theory of parallel universes eh? Or do you mean there are so many out there that the probability for another Nish-like alien doing a posting-like-operation on a CP-like website-like entity through an internet-like communication medium is high enough not to fully ignore? Nish


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                                Nishant S wrote: Or do you mean there are so many out there that the probability for another Nish-like alien doing a posting-like-operation on a CP-like website-like entity through an internet-like communication medium is high enough not to fully ignore? Exactly... there's probably a Nish-like alien answering VB questions on a CP forum as we speak ;) 14,203 postings.. how do you do it?! My world tour What I do now.. "I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" George Best.

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                                  Well, that would totally different, then. :-O I assumed, since you were so close to Mexico, you were talking about Spanish. BW "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                                  brianwelsch wrote: I assumed, since you were so close to Mexico, you were talking about Spanish. Ah, okay. Nice to know that the spanish and french words are so similar. :-) Nish


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                                    Nishant S wrote: Or do you mean there are so many out there that the probability for another Nish-like alien doing a posting-like-operation on a CP-like website-like entity through an internet-like communication medium is high enough not to fully ignore? Exactly... there's probably a Nish-like alien answering VB questions on a CP forum as we speak ;) 14,203 postings.. how do you do it?! My world tour What I do now.. "I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" George Best.

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                                    adamUK wrote: Exactly... there's probably a Nish-like alien answering VB questions on a CP forum as we speak :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: adamUK wrote: 14,203 postings.. how do you do it?! I sub contract to small companies in 1st world countries to do my postings for me. They charge me 4-5 cents/post. Some of them are really nice, for $19.99 I get 900 posts for a month and weekends and nights unlimited :-) Nish


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                                      brianwelsch wrote: Exactemento That is spanish. I mean "exactement" which is a french word which is pronounced as "exactemoh" Nish


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                                      "Exactamente" is spanish, not Exactamento <- Andres Manggini. Buenos Aires - Argentina.

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                                        "Exactamente" is spanish, not Exactamento <- Andres Manggini. Buenos Aires - Argentina.

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                                        Andres Manggini wrote: "Exactamente" is spanish, not Exactamento <- Something tells me I should have stuck to English. I guess I'll never speak proper French :-( a' la' Mike Dunn and others... Nish :-(


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                                          There are billions and billions of stars stars in our galaxy and there are billions of galaxies like ours out there. Only a baby would say (if it knew how to speak of course) that earth is the only planet with life. Yet I find that there are unbelievers everywhere. Just wanted to know how of you believe there are alien life forms out there. The others (if they decide to participate in this thread) please give valid reasonable points. And kindly dont mention religion, god and brit spears. Nish


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                                          Just rented "Contact" last night. I think that is pretty much how we would make first contact. If we are the only ones "It seems like a lot of wasted space" :-D Later,
                                          JoeSox
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