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  • F Forogar

    Yeah, that's another thing... Why do the Americans drive on the right when most of the world drive, as they should do, on the left?

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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    So I'm closer to the person in the oncoming car when I flip them off.

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      5 words - "Because it pisses you off!" All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong. Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. We've learned to own it. Most of the things that piss you off about the US of A are now intentional. Suck it up, ladies - head down to your local McDonald's and "enjoy" a horse burger and a Coke! ;)

      That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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      Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer.

      All true - but you do have the best fried chicken, even if your french fries (actually Belgian) suck compared to English Chips ("chips" are not "crisps" but are better versions of the American/Belgian/French Fries.)

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      • W Wendell D H

        I use it because that's how it would usually be spoken. (Usually) One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016. Oh... And I'm also American. :-D

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        One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016

        You might say it in this weird, backwards way because that is the the way you were brought up under the faulty US education system. To you it seems natural just as, to the rest of the world saying, "Tenth of June" is more natural.

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          Not to mention time zones, winter and summer time, formatting, parsing, the time part of dates, leap years, different ranges in different types/systems, timespans vs. datetimes... Yeah, it's about time someone lost his mind X|

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          • J jeron1

            So I'm closer to the person in the oncoming car when I flip them off.

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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            Forogar
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            In left hand drive countries the steering wheel is on the right of the vehicle so the same situation would apply anyway. Of course, for those countries that drive on the left, manners would preclude "flipping off" strangers. ;P

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer.

              All true - but you do have the best fried chicken, even if your french fries (actually Belgian) suck compared to English Chips ("chips" are not "crisps" but are better versions of the American/Belgian/French Fries.)

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Forogar wrote:

              but you do have the best fried chicken

              Great, now we have to f-up the fried chicken recipes in order to live down to your low expectations and intentionally piss you off. :rolleyes: In the future if there is something American you like - don't say anything. That way the USBPOF(US Bureau of Pissing Off Furriners) won't notice and we'll be able to have something nice for once.

              That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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              • F Forogar

                In left hand drive countries the steering wheel is on the right of the vehicle so the same situation would apply anyway. Of course, for those countries that drive on the left, manners would preclude "flipping off" strangers. ;P

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                C'mon now, where's the fun in that?

                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                • L Lost User

                  5 words - "Because it pisses you off!" All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong. Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. We've learned to own it. Most of the things that piss you off about the US of A are now intentional. Suck it up, ladies - head down to your local McDonald's and "enjoy" a horse burger and a Coke! ;)

                  That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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                  Don't forget the bad coffee.

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                  • W Wendell D H

                    I use it because that's how it would usually be spoken. (Usually) One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016. Oh... And I'm also American. :-D

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                    So 'Twelfth of Never' wasn't written by an American?

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Brisingr Aerowing
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                      The applications I write store a date as a time stamp and display it in the way the computer's culture specifies (the user can generally override that, though). I honestly hate it when a company doesn't localize things like dates, which is why I do so.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        I have no idea why. We nearly changed to Celsius from Fahrenheit about 35 years ago, but to no avail. I will admit, recently traveling abroad, I nearly entered my DOB as mm/dd/yyyy instead of dd/mm/yyyy for the custom's arrival and departure cards. Luckily my programming instincts kicked in and I made it through without incident.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Because most Americans have no idea of geography outside the US borders. In many cases inside the US borders either. As if the world outside doesn't really exist, so whatever they use is perfect. Imperial measurements instead of metric for example. Beer that resembles diluted water. Cars that scream in pain when shown a bendy road. A plate that only looks a reasonable size when it contains a meal for four. Confuse 'em back and use ISO format! :-D

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                          But we still have cars.

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                            Don't forget the bad coffee.

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                            Quote:

                            Don't forget the bad coffee.

                            Actually, I like the coffee.

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Come on Chris, everyone in the world knows that Americans don't care what other countries have to endure, as long as we make money pushing out crap to ya'll. Runs for cover... :)

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                                5 words - "Because it pisses you off!" All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong. Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. We've learned to own it. Most of the things that piss you off about the US of A are now intentional. Suck it up, ladies - head down to your local McDonald's and "enjoy" a horse burger and a Coke! ;)

                                That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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                                :thumbsup: I love irritating uptight brits

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                                • W Wendell D H

                                  I use it because that's how it would usually be spoken. (Usually) One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016. Oh... And I'm also American. :-D

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                                  I'm more likely to say 10th of June than June 10th. June 10th just feels clumsier; less civilised. Oh wait, I get it now. ;P

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    Because most Americans have no idea of geography outside the US borders. In many cases inside the US borders either. As if the world outside doesn't really exist, so whatever they use is perfect. Imperial measurements instead of metric for example. Beer that resembles diluted water. Cars that scream in pain when shown a bendy road. A plate that only looks a reasonable size when it contains a meal for four. Confuse 'em back and use ISO format! :-D

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    Because most Americans have no idea of geography outside the US borders.

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                                      Come on Chris, everyone in the world knows that Americans don't care what other countries have to endure, as long as we make money pushing out crap to ya'll. Runs for cover... :)

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                                      Well, how come you don't ship outside the States then? He did ask! It does seem to be a wasted opportunity to grab bundles of cash from us! Oh, the t-shirts I'd buy! :sigh:

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                                        Right- and left-hand traffic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] Ever since we stopped jousting on the main roadways we thought we'd just switch over.

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                                        Bluddy French supporters! You are aware, I assume, that the reason that Europe began driving on the right is because the British (sensibly, and because they were the first to make such a decision) decided to drive on the left, aren't you? Mon Dieu! l'anglais les voitures d'entraînement sur la gauche! Nous devons conduire à droite! So Americans are just frog-leg lovers! Thought so. Me, I prefer my (strong) right hand to stay on the steering wheel, whilst I'm changing gear, etc.

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                                          5 words - "Because it pisses you off!" All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong. Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. We've learned to own it. Most of the things that piss you off about the US of A are now intentional. Suck it up, ladies - head down to your local McDonald's and "enjoy" a horse burger and a Coke! ;)

                                          That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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                                          :laugh:

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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