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  • 1 1 21 Gigawatts

    :) Yes, I think even Boris and Nigel are surprised! I don't know what your thoughts are, but I thought it was a bloody terrible campaign from both sides. Far too much bad blood, mud slinging, arguing and fear tactics. Can't we have a sensible discussion? If I went around talking to people in the office like that I would be sacked!!

    "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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    1.21 Gigawatts wrote:

    Can't we have a sensible discussion?

    In politics?

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      So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for). I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief. However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number). Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation! :sigh:

      "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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      A fascinating experiment in which I have only a minor interest.

      Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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        So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for). I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief. However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number). Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation! :sigh:

        "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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        Well a lot of people didn't see that i guess. We will see how it ends, i personally hope the british ship doesn't sink and the scare tactics are only tactics.

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          So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for). I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief. However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number). Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation! :sigh:

          "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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          We're not out. The process of getting out won't start at least until October, the focus until then will be on electing a new PM. After that there could be a general election called. So nothing until this time next year. Then investigation and negotiation. Then it could be put to the people that a threat to leave has helped us negotiate and staying would be better. Possibly with another referendum. Boris doesn't actually want to get out, he just wants to be PM. If we do leave the process won't start for at least two years, and then take another two years to conclude.

          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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            We're not out. The process of getting out won't start at least until October, the focus until then will be on electing a new PM. After that there could be a general election called. So nothing until this time next year. Then investigation and negotiation. Then it could be put to the people that a threat to leave has helped us negotiate and staying would be better. Possibly with another referendum. Boris doesn't actually want to get out, he just wants to be PM. If we do leave the process won't start for at least two years, and then take another two years to conclude.

            Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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            chriselst wrote:

            that a threat to leave has helped us negotiate

            And for that very reason we should vote Leave again.

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              We're not out. The process of getting out won't start at least until October, the focus until then will be on electing a new PM. After that there could be a general election called. So nothing until this time next year. Then investigation and negotiation. Then it could be put to the people that a threat to leave has helped us negotiate and staying would be better. Possibly with another referendum. Boris doesn't actually want to get out, he just wants to be PM. If we do leave the process won't start for at least two years, and then take another two years to conclude.

              Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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              Yes indeed - at least 2 years - that I knew (just couldn't be bothered to write it all down!) There is a lot of work to be done in the meantime. Maybe Europe will start to listen a bit more, maybe they'll begin appeasing other countries to halt the break up of the EU?

              "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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                Weren't they sovereign before?

                Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...

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                No, the EU countries are not considered sovereign by the EU. The states in the US are supposed to be sovereign, too, but they're not really.

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                  So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for). I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief. However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number). Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation! :sigh:

                  "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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                  I am sad about it and I am sorry about all of you that you wanted to stay. It will be a hard period, but everyone will survive it. But now... IMHO all parts must be consequent. Negotiations and blah blah... why? Getting the good parts and rejecting the stinky responsabilities... that's not fair. Out was democratically selected, OK then... really out. Do it like with plasters, short and sudden to avoid inunnecesary pain.

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    No, the EU countries are not considered sovereign by the EU. The states in the US are supposed to be sovereign, too, but they're not really.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    According to this they were: List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] I guess it depends on who you ask.

                    Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...

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                    • 1 1 21 Gigawatts

                      So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for). I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief. However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number). Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation! :sigh:

                      "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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                      That's what you get when the majority of a nation eats it's food out of an old newspaper.

                      In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.

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                        We're not out. The process of getting out won't start at least until October, the focus until then will be on electing a new PM. After that there could be a general election called. So nothing until this time next year. Then investigation and negotiation. Then it could be put to the people that a threat to leave has helped us negotiate and staying would be better. Possibly with another referendum. Boris doesn't actually want to get out, he just wants to be PM. If we do leave the process won't start for at least two years, and then take another two years to conclude.

                        Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                        Herman T Instance
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                        The process of leaving will start soon. Otherwise negotiations would not be started. Cameron must send a letter to EU soon with the fact that England leaves. It might/will take up 2 years before UK is definately out. We welcome Scotland and Northern Ireland in the EU within these 2 years :D

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                          So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for). I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief. However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number). Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation! :sigh:

                          "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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                          What would vote for: "Europe" or "Freedom"? Giving up freedom is NEVER a choice. It is a failure of european politics by name Merkel. X|

                          Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                            I am sad about it and I am sorry about all of you that you wanted to stay. It will be a hard period, but everyone will survive it. But now... IMHO all parts must be consequent. Negotiations and blah blah... why? Getting the good parts and rejecting the stinky responsabilities... that's not fair. Out was democratically selected, OK then... really out. Do it like with plasters, short and sudden to avoid inunnecesary pain.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Nelek wrote:

                            Negotiations and blah blah... why?

                            Er ... because the EU treaties require it! Think Hotel California!

                            I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                              So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for). I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief. However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number). Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation! :sigh:

                              "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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                              Herman T Instance
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                              Now England is out of the EU we do not have to speak English anymore as default language in the European Parliament. The Germans, The French and the Polish have the best changes. And do not underestimate the Greek population.

                              In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.

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                                That's what you get when the majority of a nation eats it's food out of an old newspaper.

                                In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.

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                                9082365
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                                digimanus wrote:

                                eats it's food out of an old newspaper

                                It's been over 30 years since fish and chips (or any other food) was allowed to be wrapped solely in newspaper. If this is an example of how 'in touch' Europe is with our culture then I guess we done the right thing!

                                I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                  Now England is out of the EU we do not have to speak English anymore as default language in the European Parliament. The Germans, The French and the Polish have the best changes. And do not underestimate the Greek population.

                                  In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.

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                                  Yes, you will. It is the primary language of Cyprus, Ireland, and Malta and the language of choice for a number of other members who prefer it to French or German.

                                  I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                    The process of leaving will start soon. Otherwise negotiations would not be started. Cameron must send a letter to EU soon with the fact that England leaves. It might/will take up 2 years before UK is definately out. We welcome Scotland and Northern Ireland in the EU within these 2 years :D

                                    In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.

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                                    The process of leaving cannot start without an act of parliament that passes through both houses. The referendum had no legal status. The issue will not go before parliament until we have a new prime minister which cannot be before October. Once notice to leave is given then there is a two year limit to get out. That is why negotiations will start long before the notice is given, so that they have some idea what to negotiate about when they start negotiating.

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                                      Yes, you will. It is the primary language of Cyprus, Ireland, and Malta and the language of choice for a number of other members who prefer it to French or German.

                                      I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                      Herman T Instance
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                                      that might change now!

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                                        digimanus wrote:

                                        eats it's food out of an old newspaper

                                        It's been over 30 years since fish and chips (or any other food) was allowed to be wrapped solely in newspaper. If this is an example of how 'in touch' Europe is with our culture then I guess we done the right thing!

                                        I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                        Herman T Instance
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                                        this is not of being 'in touch' but stay with my facts ;) (I thought English had humour and not such a serious tone)

                                        In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.

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                                          What would vote for: "Europe" or "Freedom"? Giving up freedom is NEVER a choice. It is a failure of european politics by name Merkel. X|

                                          Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                                          KarstenK wrote:

                                          It is a failure of european politics by name Merkel

                                          What has Merkel done to make that statement?

                                          cheers,

                                          Super

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