10 Best Evidence for Creation and a Young Earth
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Would you rather bet your life on a medicine that has been rigorously blind tested and proven to work on the disease you suffer from, or visit your witch doctor so he can shake a stick at you and chant? The latter is the older medical treatment that has existed for probably tens of thousands of years... Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory which explains and predicted extremely well changes we can and have seen happening in a population. Being a theory it is of course open to replacement if a better theory comes along and explains and predicts things better. And as for "something that has held strong for over 2000 years?" I would suggest you check your "facts" there as well unless you are reading it in the original paleo-Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, or selected as "correct" by the papal Council of Carthage in 397AD (except for the Deuterocanonical books which were removed from the King James version in 1611 of course).
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory
Now you understand.
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I am not trying to start an argument - but your statement about the Greek is factually incorrect. I can read Koine Greek, and the hapax legomena term "theopneustos" (lit. God-breathed) in the Timothy verse is, indeed, a claim to God's authorship. This is purely objective linguistic judgment. It is perfectly valid for you to state that you do not believe that claim to be original or truthful, but it is not valid for you to state that it does not make such a claim. In evaluating anything, we must strive to be as objective as possible without letting our feelings or preconceptions leading us astray.
It would be hard to find a modern Greek scholar who does not think the interpretation of theopneustos as indicating the divine authorship of the Scriptures is entirely wrong. It fails to take into account the more general thrust of Pauline theology and understanding of the work of the Holy Spirit. The word must be interpreted as sacramental, that is to say that the words of scripture become sanctified in the moment of being read and understood by the believer as both the text and the mind are filled with the Holy Spirit. This is much more in tune with the early Christian's understanding of Christ as the living, dynamic God and Paul's insistence on the constant imannence of God in the Spirit, and, incidentally, with the views of later Pauline theologians such as Augustine and Luther. For all of them the sacredness and authority of Scripture lies in the relationship between word and mind infused with the Holy Spirit in the present moment. This is echoed in Paul's words about foolishness becoming wisdom when seen from the believer's position rather than the unbeliever's and other examples of the transformational power of the Spirit creating the Kingdom of God from the most everyday of things in sacramental relationships. That theopneustos cannot reasonably be interpreted as declaring divine authorship is reinforced by the absence anywhere else in the Bible itself nor the early Church of any indication that there was a belief in the actual involvement of God in the actual selection of and writing of the words of Scripture or any suggestion from the writers of epistles, gospels, or revelation that they were in any way under the control of God when writing. In Paul's case in particular, the number of errors, false starts, and non sequiturs renders any such suggestion preposterous. Moreover the context of Paul's remark here must also be taken into account here as it is clearly a response to what would have been an important issue for the early Christians; having rejected the Law as a means of salvation or a legitimate expression of our relationship with God should we not also reject the writings in which it is enshrined? Paul's answer is entirely more understandable as a claim that God through the Spirit can make use of even the apparently obsolete Torah than that it's all God's actual words. To claim the latter is as good as saying that God is a liar or deceiver or that Jesus was not the Son of that God thereby completely undermining Christian belief. The concept of divine authorship of Scripture simply belong
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Yes, a game about Japanese pocket monsters - demons- that has so far claimed the lives of a few children and harmed the mind of many more. Is it any surprise that the game contains references to evolution?
Look on the bright side: it teaches children to train their animals to fight other animals.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You seem to have a deep misunderstanding of what constitutes a scientific theory. A scientific theory must be falsifiable, not false.
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You seem to have a deep misunderstanding of what constitutes a scientific theory. A scientific theory must be falsifiable, not false.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Falsifiable theories are nothing to base your eternal security on. There are people screaming and flopping around in hell right now who fell for fables and theories instead of the truth of Christ. And they won't get out, ever. God is going to torture them in there FOREVER.
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Would you rather bet your life on a medicine that has been rigorously blind tested and proven to work on the disease you suffer from, or visit your witch doctor so he can shake a stick at you and chant? The latter is the older medical treatment that has existed for probably tens of thousands of years... Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory which explains and predicted extremely well changes we can and have seen happening in a population. Being a theory it is of course open to replacement if a better theory comes along and explains and predicts things better. And as for "something that has held strong for over 2000 years?" I would suggest you check your "facts" there as well unless you are reading it in the original paleo-Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, or selected as "correct" by the papal Council of Carthage in 397AD (except for the Deuterocanonical books which were removed from the King James version in 1611 of course).
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I admire your tenacity.:thumbsup: For me, trying to argue with a closed illogical mind is just an exercise in frustration and futility.:mad:
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2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Falsifiable theories are nothing to base your eternal security on. There are people screaming and flopping around in hell right now who fell for fables and theories instead of the truth of Christ. And they won't get out, ever. God is going to torture them in there FOREVER.
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If you think you hear Pokemons calling you to the bedroom, seek help
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2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Falsifiable theories are nothing to base your eternal security on. There are people screaming and flopping around in hell right now who fell for fables and theories instead of the truth of Christ. And they won't get out, ever. God is going to torture them in there FOREVER.
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2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Falsifiable theories are nothing to base your eternal security on. There are people screaming and flopping around in hell right now who fell for fables and theories instead of the truth of Christ. And they won't get out, ever. God is going to torture them in there FOREVER.
I love it, you invoke the book of contradictions, then you call theories fables based on your knowledge of the book of contradictions. Then you witter on about eternal security, as for people flopping around in hell, you know this how? Oh wait it is written in the book of contradictions. The ONLY basis of your premises is the book of contradictions oh and your faith.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
Wow, that's pretty awesome! :D I'd better go there and worship my favorite DC pantheon (double blasphemy intended) :D
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Regards, Sander
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Hey! The old gods are alive and well. Wdnesday = Wotan's day = Odin's day. Thursday = Thor's day, in German it's Donnerstag, very similar to Donar and Donner still is the word for thunder. And there is also Friday, acually Freya's day. And you forgot Teutates for Asterix. :-)
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This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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CDP1802 wrote:
And you forgot Teutates for Asterix. :)
By Teutates!
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Regards, Sander
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I love it, you invoke the book of contradictions, then you call theories fables based on your knowledge of the book of contradictions. Then you witter on about eternal security, as for people flopping around in hell, you know this how? Oh wait it is written in the book of contradictions. The ONLY basis of your premises is the book of contradictions oh and your faith.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Oh wait it is written in the book of contradictions.
Actually, it's not. That was my whole point in the long comment above. A physical Hell is a 5th Century invention and that of a heretic to boot!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Then that God has no right to expect to be worshipped or loved in any way. It is a moral imperative to treat such a God with utter contempt, whatever the cost, and to treat his followers likewise!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
It might be easy for you to talk big against God right now. But some day, when you will be standing before him soon, you will be utterly terrified. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 1:7). Better to fear Him now, than later when there is nothing that can save you.
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That's what they want you to think! Actually, he's one of Our Lizard Masters: IRON SKY 2[^]
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You mean I will not get to visit grandpa on the moon?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory
Now you understand.
I’m not sure you understand the word 'theory' in this context, a scientific context, rather than a layman context.
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It might be easy for you to talk big against God right now. But some day, when you will be standing before him soon, you will be utterly terrified. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 1:7). Better to fear Him now, than later when there is nothing that can save you.
I will not. God can do nothing since it doesn't exist, nor any other gods or demons or whatever. And if he does exist HE will be utterly terrified for Hell hath no fury like a rational bad temeperd atheist who lived an entire life dominated by religious sycophants who maimed, killed and stomped on civil liberties to honor an extraplanar dictator.
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