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  • S Super Lloyd

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

    What about.... IE6? ;P Just asking! :laugh:

    A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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    Vincent Maverick Durano
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    Super Lloyd wrote:

    What about.... IE6? ;-P

    That's the worst web browser ever made since human existed. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      Chris C B
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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything.

      Excuseme, but you forgot the most salient point - if you can get it to work in just one browser, you can guarantee it won't work in any other. I quit web development just before the death of classic ASP, and have been a happy man ever since. I even write in VB.net, rather than go back to web stuff. :-O :laugh:

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        Foothill
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        Preach, brother. Personally, I can't figure out why they decided to use text to transmit web data instead of raw binary. Both would have to be parsed to be displayed anyway. While text may be readable, it requires 5X+ the bandwidth. Nowadays, when you visit most websites you get mabey 5KB of actual content and 350KB of pure B.S. (ads, scripts, etc...) that have to be pulled down from 30 different other websites.

        if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          This cup is very appropriate: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41n43bgurLL.jpg[^]

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            This cup is very appropriate: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41n43bgurLL.jpg[^]

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            Sander Rossel
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            :thumbsup: :laugh:

            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

              Next time, pay very close attention to my signature.

              Quote:

              The sh*t I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem

              I wrote that when I was a web developer. Now, I am a happy man. :laugh:

              The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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              Sander Rossel
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              Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

              It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem

              The clouds are there, they probably have the wrong CSS (not visible, not in the DOM, transparent, off the page...) ;p I always say "life is a trail of tears and then you die." It usually lifts my spirit, but even my cheery self can't handle HTML/CSS :sigh:

              Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • C Chris C B

                Sander Rossel wrote:

                The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything.

                Excuseme, but you forgot the most salient point - if you can get it to work in just one browser, you can guarantee it won't work in any other. I quit web development just before the death of classic ASP, and have been a happy man ever since. I even write in VB.net, rather than go back to web stuff. :-O :laugh:

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                Sander Rossel
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                Chris C-B wrote:

                if you can get it to work in just one browser, you can guarantee it won't work in any other.

                How could I forget about that :thumbsup: :laugh:

                Chris C-B wrote:

                I even write in VB.net

                It's just C# with slightly different syntax :D

                Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                • L Lost User

                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  JavaScript is a very nice and clean language full of features that are widely supported...

                  Yes. In Mordor.

                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                  This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                  "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  I'm pretty sure those orcs were styled using HTML and CSS :laugh:

                  Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                    It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem

                    The clouds are there, they probably have the wrong CSS (not visible, not in the DOM, transparent, off the page...) ;p I always say "life is a trail of tears and then you die." It usually lifts my spirit, but even my cheery self can't handle HTML/CSS :sigh:

                    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                    Poor web developer. :laugh: Take my tip: When something like this happen, leave the work and go relax. I watch a movie in that time, listen to music or at best I sleep.

                    The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      I'm pretty sure those orcs were styled using HTML and CSS :laugh:

                      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      The orcs were just Sauron's first victims

                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                        The orcs were just Sauron's first victims

                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                        Vincent Maverick Durano
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                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        The orcs were just Sauron's first victims

                        Gollum was the first :laugh:

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          Come on! You are doing it for less then a year!!! I do web for almost 20 years - try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy :laugh:

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          Vincent Maverick Durano
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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                          try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy

                          Indeed! :laugh:

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                          • R Rick York

                            This cup is very appropriate: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41n43bgurLL.jpg[^]

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I laughed out loud for real with that.

                            Jeremy Falcon

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

                              Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              IE8, the new IE6.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

                                Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                Besinger
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                                I have to agree on the Crystal Reports! Everytime I touch one I have to reset the data connection! Nothing ever formats the way you want it. Please oh please let me replace them?

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

                                  Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                  Regards, Sander

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  I've found that HTML/CSS works a Hell of a lot better if you take out the CSS.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • V Vincent Maverick Durano

                                    Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                    You actually said too much. You could have stopped at just "IE8", or even "IE", and we all would have known your plight.

                                    LMAO! Very well said! But wait.. IE6 was worst :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                    Dave Kreskowiak
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                                    Vincent Maverick Durano wrote:

                                    IE6

                                    HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE. :-D

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                                      Vincent Maverick Durano wrote:

                                      IE6

                                      HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE. :-D

                                      A guide to posting questions on CodeProject

                                      Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
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                                      Vincent Maverick Durano
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                                      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                      HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE. :-D

                                      lol. My deepest apology your highness. But it's not even a language. It's a JOKE. IE6 was a JOKE! :laugh: :laugh:

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                                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                                        IE8, the new IE6.

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        And Edge is the new IE :D

                                        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                        Regards, Sander

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

                                          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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                                          Kiriander
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                                          YOU can help phasing out IE8! If everyone stops supporting it, web users will be more inclined not to use a browser which makes all web sites look broken.

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