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  • CPalliniC CPallini

    Today there are many many many engineers... :laugh:

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    Nelek
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    :doh: :doh: Should we start with... "there must be only one"? That could improve character like the klingons :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

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      Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

      Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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      Just for the hell of it, I'll be optimistic. That implies that an old timer like myself (and many others in this lounge) don't have to worry about job security. Well, at least until the above-referenced cretins take over the management positions.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • L Lost User

        I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

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        Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

        Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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        S Houghtelin
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        In this day and age where youth are programmed to have their thinking done for them, I do not find this surprising. My experience as a lead tech for a service department says yes, there are other afflicted industries. The electronic technicians that are turned out these days are unable to troubleshoot effectively but they are good* at swapping parts until the device works. *Good being far to generous a term to describe their skills as an electronic technician.

        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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          I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

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          Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

          Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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          Ravi Bhavnani
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          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

          Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste?

          Isn't it[^]? :) /ravi

          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

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            Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

            Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Writing code is hard! Well, actually, it's all that thinking you have to do before writing the code.

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              I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

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              Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

              Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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              Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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              I call them Jimmy Kodes[^]. A few characteristics includes, 1. They never wanted to be developers/programmers. 2. They took a course about programming, by being impressed by Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page etc. 3. Even if you give them code, they would come back and say, how to deploy it? Finally, I have learnt that the solution to them is only to ignore them or at best, give them a RTFM look! :laugh:

              The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                In this day and age where youth are programmed to have their thinking done for them, I do not find this surprising. My experience as a lead tech for a service department says yes, there are other afflicted industries. The electronic technicians that are turned out these days are unable to troubleshoot effectively but they are good* at swapping parts until the device works. *Good being far to generous a term to describe their skills as an electronic technician.

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                S Houghtelin wrote:

                at swapping parts until the device works

                That one kills me, when asked why they chose that part to replace, you get the deer-in-headlights look along with the crickets chirping sound. If you're 'lucky' you'll get the "well it worked before....on a different problem".

                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                  I call them Jimmy Kodes[^]. A few characteristics includes, 1. They never wanted to be developers/programmers. 2. They took a course about programming, by being impressed by Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page etc. 3. Even if you give them code, they would come back and say, how to deploy it? Finally, I have learnt that the solution to them is only to ignore them or at best, give them a RTFM look! :laugh:

                  The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                  S Houghtelin
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                  Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote:

                  ...give them a RTFM look!

                  You're one of thoooose guys... :laugh:

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

                    Quote:

                    Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

                    Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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                    Lost User
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                    Those are the same people I like to send around asking managers for the pair of bladeless scisors.

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      Writing code is hard! Well, actually, it's all that thinking you have to do before writing the code.

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                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      Well, actually, it's all that thinking you have to do before writing the code.

                      And if not, all that thinking afterwards chasing bugs!

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                        I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

                        Quote:

                        Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

                        Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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                        Lost User
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                        If the "role" is a "coder" or "developer", then they typically can handle only rote tasks. In other words yes, that is what it is. If however, they are a Software Engineer or Architect then absolutely not. An engineer needs to think about the big picture and how things will come together. The architect must not only be concerned about that but also how things are maintained or tested and even extended. Asking this of someone that has little to no design study or work experience is a foul on the employers part. In the future (and maybe already today) our industry will have its version of "the burger flipper". I would get use to it. They have their place and we need them and often they will step up and be actual engineers.

                        Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                        • C Calcium Lactate

                          Do programmers gain exp by copy and paste?

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                          You mean like in Dungeons & Dragons? With the option to become a dual class Developer/Paladin when you reach level 15?

                          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                            I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

                            Quote:

                            Iam unable to find the code for [redacted]. Ihave been searching for [redacted] but didnt found any exact code. Please help

                            Do they really believe that the job of a developer consists purely of Cut & Paste? Discuss.

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                            I wonder if other industries are populated with the sort of person who posts questions like:

                            Yes, particularly the medical industry. Copy and paste this diagnosis on the patient, it saves money, gets the patient out the door, and who cares if they die, we saved the insurance companies a bundle. Marc

                            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                              You mean like in Dungeons & Dragons? With the option to become a dual class Developer/Paladin when you reach level 15?

                              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                              Calcium Lactate
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                              Then copy & paste is the basic move that helps leveling before lvl 15. ;P And then different activities are suitable for different dual classes. :java: Developer/Paladin:thumbsup: Developer/Merchant Developer/Healer Developer/Prince Developer/King Developer/Bard Developer/Mage Developer/Necromancer Developer/Ranger Developer/Thief :-D

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                                Then copy & paste is the basic move that helps leveling before lvl 15. ;P And then different activities are suitable for different dual classes. :java: Developer/Paladin:thumbsup: Developer/Merchant Developer/Healer Developer/Prince Developer/King Developer/Bard Developer/Mage Developer/Necromancer Developer/Ranger Developer/Thief :-D

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                                Lost User
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                                I am chaotic evil too :-)

                                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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