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  • P Paul Watson

    Shog9 wrote: ...faster at typing in function definitions manually anyway, so don't give a sh*t... Holy crap you old rear guard type chaps still type? WOW! As a VB user I naturally drag and drop words from my Dictionary Toolbar into the editor. It allows for RPD (Rapid Post Development.) Way better than actually typing. ;)

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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    D&D rox. Too bad MS has made it such a worthless PITA for so many years. The sidebars in InterDev (and now VS.NET) were long overdue...

    - Shog9 -

    Fat and soft, pink and weak / Foot and thigh, tongue and cheek You know I'm told they swallow you whole / Skin and bone. - Queens Of The Stone Age, Mosquito Song

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    • S Stephane Rodriguez

      Alright, that's simple collaboration put into practice, but the task items can easily be unrelated to the actual checkins/checkouts, hence the trouble. That said, it is probably not a concern in small teams. But for 150+ teams, ... aie! aie! aie!

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      .S.Rod. wrote: Alright, that's simple collaboration put into practice, but the task items can easily be unrelated to the actual checkins/checkouts, hence the trouble. We use the commitinfo script (CVS has some script on the CVSROOT dir that act as "events" or "delegates", and commitinfo is a pre-commit event to validate a commit) to check if the proper Task ID (communication with Exchange is made via simple HTTP) was set on the commit comments, the Task on the Exchange is updated. Again, a simple script solved this problem for us.


      It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)

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      • P Paul Watson

        l a u r e n wrote: thats why i went back to vs6 Obviously there is a very clear distinction forming here. Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. Leet newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers wot any .NET Framework bits use are flocking to VS.NET, loving it to bits and announcing the death of VS6. So really the distinction is; If you are using the .NET Framework then use VS.NET. Otherwise stick with VS6. I use the .NET Framework. * And all the exceptions to the rule can pipe down; have a fag, calm down and enjoy your pseudo-Friday

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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        Rohit Sinha
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        Paul Watson wrote: have a fag I'll have you know that I'm straight. :suss:
        Regards,

        Rohit Sinha

        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
        - Mother Teresa

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          Uhm. I'm not using the .NET Framework, but I do C++ programming with VS.NET. Am I the official C++ bastard? :) -- Nicotine free: day 3

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          Anders Molin
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          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I'm not using the .NET Framework, but I do C++ programming with VS.NET Same here ;) I guess we are the "newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers" - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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            l a u r e n wrote: thats why i went back to vs6 Obviously there is a very clear distinction forming here. Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. Leet newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers wot any .NET Framework bits use are flocking to VS.NET, loving it to bits and announcing the death of VS6. So really the distinction is; If you are using the .NET Framework then use VS.NET. Otherwise stick with VS6. I use the .NET Framework. * And all the exceptions to the rule can pipe down; have a fag, calm down and enjoy your pseudo-Friday

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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            Anders Molin
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            Paul Watson wrote: Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. LOL :laugh: Or should it be: Stupid coders who whish it still was the dark middleage stick with VC6, and hates VC7... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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            • B Bangerman

              For the past 5-6 years I have been editing my files and when the file is checked in I type the first character, it bleeped, threw up the checkout box, I hit enter and typed the rest in. Now, I start typing and all the damn text goes into their checkout edit box, including the CR. I would like to shoot the idiot who thought of that. Its Ok if you realise the file is checked out, but if you have a whole load of files open you cant tell which are checked out and which are not. Why didnt they give any feedback, this is VISUAL Studio, maybe a red LH window border or something so I can at least see that a dialog is going to pop up...


              Hell I thought it was funny .....

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              Ranjan Banerji
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              Yeah I hate when that happens. Specially when you are tyring to fix some sort of a production bug under tremendous pressure and that damn box shows up and hitting enter does nothing. Drives me nuts. I almost always hand code, so don't really miss the old wizards in VS 6.0 and have no clue about the new ones in the .Net IDE. Another thing that drives me nuts and actually has nothing to do with the .Net IDE is that my stupid antivirus software has a script blocker. So I cannot hit help or else the IDE crashes. It also crashes each time I shut down the IDE. Shutting down the script blocker does not seem to help. I have to turn it off, tell it not to start automatically, and then reboot. What a pain. Stupid McAfee......

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              • R Rohit Sinha

                Paul Watson wrote: have a fag I'll have you know that I'm straight. :suss:
                Regards,

                Rohit Sinha

                Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                - Mother Teresa

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                Paul Watson
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                Rohit  Sinha wrote: I'll have you know that I'm straight For your aunt's aunty I sure hope so. Plus your lips are purple. ;) p.s. Looks like we might just beat the Bangladeshies ;)

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Shog9 wrote: ...faster at typing in function definitions manually anyway, so don't give a sh*t... Holy crap you old rear guard type chaps still type? WOW! As a VB user I naturally drag and drop words from my Dictionary Toolbar into the editor. It allows for RPD (Rapid Post Development.) Way better than actually typing. ;)

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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                  What? No voice recognition software?? Amatuer! ;P BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Rohit  Sinha wrote: I'll have you know that I'm straight For your aunt's aunty I sure hope so. Plus your lips are purple. ;) p.s. Looks like we might just beat the Bangladeshies ;)

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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                    Rohit Sinha
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                    Paul Watson wrote: For your aunt's aunty I sure hope so. Well, she got what she wanted. I now I have my eyes set on my uncle's aunty. :rolleyes: Paul Watson wrote: Looks like we might just beat the Bangladeshies Yeah, so we might get to thrash your team's South African ass in the final yet. Prepare to get assaulted. :cool:
                    Regards,

                    Rohit Sinha

                    Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                    - Mother Teresa

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                    • B brianwelsch

                      What? No voice recognition software?? Amatuer! ;P BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin

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                      What? No Brain Wave Detection software? So how is the weather like in the Stone Age? Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons? If you want I can send you an ass-load. ;P
                      Regards,

                      Rohit Sinha

                      Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                      - Mother Teresa

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                      • R Rohit Sinha

                        What? No Brain Wave Detection software? So how is the weather like in the Stone Age? Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons? If you want I can send you an ass-load. ;P
                        Regards,

                        Rohit Sinha

                        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                        - Mother Teresa

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                        Rohit  Sinha wrote: No Brain Wave Detection software? I'm working on it... :) Just watching "What Women Want" for research... :rolleyes: Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                        Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                        • R Rohit Sinha

                          What? No Brain Wave Detection software? So how is the weather like in the Stone Age? Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons? If you want I can send you an ass-load. ;P
                          Regards,

                          Rohit Sinha

                          Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                          - Mother Teresa

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                          Rohit  Sinha wrote: Brain Wave Detection software Grog no understand. Rohit  Sinha wrote: So how is the weather like in the Stone Age Great big fireball in sky. Grog no like heat. :rolleyes: Rohit Sinha wrote: Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons ** Grog looks up from pointy stick ** Stone? weapon? :confused: BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin

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                            Paul Watson wrote: Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. LOL :laugh: Or should it be: Stupid coders who whish it still was the dark middleage stick with VC6, and hates VC7... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                            Anders Molin wrote: Stupid coders who whish it still was the dark middleage stick with VC6, and hates VC7 :laugh: Or those of us who have just finished uni and couldn't afford it :( Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                            Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                            • R Ryan Binns

                              Rohit  Sinha wrote: No Brain Wave Detection software? I'm working on it... :) Just watching "What Women Want" for research... :rolleyes: Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                              Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                              Rohit Sinha
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                              Ryan Binns wrote: Just watching "What Women Want" for research... Have you researched men? They are much easier to do. In case you haven't, I can give you a hint. There are only three things that men want. Cunt, cocktails and Cricket.
                              Regards,

                              Rohit Sinha

                              Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                              - Mother Teresa

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                                Ryan Binns wrote: Just watching "What Women Want" for research... Have you researched men? They are much easier to do. In case you haven't, I can give you a hint. There are only three things that men want. Cunt, cocktails and Cricket.
                                Regards,

                                Rohit Sinha

                                Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                                - Mother Teresa

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                                Rohit  Sinha wrote: Have you researched men? I prefer to spend my time watching women! ;P BTW, I read a novel once that had some sort of brainwave reading thing. It was used for flying military aircraft. Quite interesting. A bit far fetched, though. It was called "Day of The Cheetah" by Dale Brown. Anyway, primitive brainwave control has already been done. I remember hearing a report a while ago that people have successfully moved cursors around the screen. Not sure about any more than that though. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                  Rohit  Sinha wrote: Brain Wave Detection software Grog no understand. Rohit  Sinha wrote: So how is the weather like in the Stone Age Great big fireball in sky. Grog no like heat. :rolleyes: Rohit Sinha wrote: Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons ** Grog looks up from pointy stick ** Stone? weapon? :confused: BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin

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                                  Grog smoke-signalled: Grog no understand. Er, ah, it's just something we use to communicate to others. Grog smoke-signalled: ** Grog looks up from pointy stick ** Stone? weapon? :confused: What, are you still groggy, Grog? Not that weapon dammit! I'm talking about the one you use to kill your prey. The one you tie on sticks. You are supposed to live in the Stone Age dammit. Use those stones. When will you guys adopt technology, for goodness sake? :rolleyes:
                                  Regards,

                                  Rohit Sinha

                                  Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                                  - Mother Teresa

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                                  • R Ryan Binns

                                    Rohit  Sinha wrote: Have you researched men? I prefer to spend my time watching women! ;P BTW, I read a novel once that had some sort of brainwave reading thing. It was used for flying military aircraft. Quite interesting. A bit far fetched, though. It was called "Day of The Cheetah" by Dale Brown. Anyway, primitive brainwave control has already been done. I remember hearing a report a while ago that people have successfully moved cursors around the screen. Not sure about any more than that though. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                    Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                    Ryan Binns wrote: I prefer to spend my time watching women! OK this is getting too much for the Lounge, so this is the last one on this from my side. I prefer to do something else to women than just watch. ;P Ryan Binns wrote: Anyway, primitive brainwave control has already been done. I remember hearing a report a while ago that people have successfully moved cursors around the screen. Not sure about any more than that though. I am not going to reveal my secrets. :suss:
                                    Regards,

                                    Rohit Sinha

                                    Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                                    - Mother Teresa

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                                      Ryan Binns wrote: I prefer to spend my time watching women! OK this is getting too much for the Lounge, so this is the last one on this from my side. I prefer to do something else to women than just watch. ;P Ryan Binns wrote: Anyway, primitive brainwave control has already been done. I remember hearing a report a while ago that people have successfully moved cursors around the screen. Not sure about any more than that though. I am not going to reveal my secrets. :suss:
                                      Regards,

                                      Rohit Sinha

                                      Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                                      - Mother Teresa

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                                      Rohit  Sinha wrote: Ryan Binns wrote: I prefer to spend my time watching women! OK this is getting too much for the Lounge, so this is the last one on this from my side. I prefer to do something else to women than just watch. :-O oops, I didn't mean that... :-O Not that it matters, but I meant I preferred women over men... never mind Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                      Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                        Grog smoke-signalled: Grog no understand. Er, ah, it's just something we use to communicate to others. Grog smoke-signalled: ** Grog looks up from pointy stick ** Stone? weapon? :confused: What, are you still groggy, Grog? Not that weapon dammit! I'm talking about the one you use to kill your prey. The one you tie on sticks. You are supposed to live in the Stone Age dammit. Use those stones. When will you guys adopt technology, for goodness sake? :rolleyes:
                                        Regards,

                                        Rohit Sinha

                                        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                                        - Mother Teresa

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                                        Rohit  Sinha wrote: Grog smoke-signalled :laugh: Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                        Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                          Rohit  Sinha wrote: Have you researched men? I prefer to spend my time watching women! ;P BTW, I read a novel once that had some sort of brainwave reading thing. It was used for flying military aircraft. Quite interesting. A bit far fetched, though. It was called "Day of The Cheetah" by Dale Brown. Anyway, primitive brainwave control has already been done. I remember hearing a report a while ago that people have successfully moved cursors around the screen. Not sure about any more than that though. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                          Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                          Ryan Binns wrote: It was called "Day of The Cheetah Was that basis for the Clint Eastwood movie FoxFire or was it FireFox. He was supposed to steal a Russian fighter plane which flew using brain waves. BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin

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