What I hate about VS.NET
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Uhm. I'm not using the .NET Framework, but I do C++ programming with VS.NET. Am I the official C++ bastard? :) -- Nicotine free: day 3
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Am I the official C++ bastard? You wan't to be, don't you? You bad, bad boy. :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
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So you manage bug or dev activity file grouping over time with a separate .txt file ? It's the beauty of Clearcase for instance to let you both create activities on a set of files, checkin, then sync by activity name (with full rollback capability of course).
.S.Rod. wrote: So you manage bug or dev activity file grouping over time with a separate .txt file ? No, with a simple Public Folder with task items on our Exchange Server. Simplicity rules!
It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)
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l a u r e n wrote: thats why i went back to vs6 Obviously there is a very clear distinction forming here. Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. Leet newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers wot any .NET Framework bits use are flocking to VS.NET, loving it to bits and announcing the death of VS6. So really the distinction is; If you are using the .NET Framework then use VS.NET. Otherwise stick with VS6. I use the .NET Framework. * And all the exceptions to the rule can pipe down; have a fag, calm down and enjoy your pseudo-Friday
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
Paul Watson wrote: And all the exceptions to the rule can pipe down *John pipes down* :) "Yeah, and I invented the spellchecker" - fellow inventor Dan Quayle on hearing that Al Gore invented the Internet.
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l a u r e n wrote: thats why i went back to vs6 Obviously there is a very clear distinction forming here. Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. Leet newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers wot any .NET Framework bits use are flocking to VS.NET, loving it to bits and announcing the death of VS6. So really the distinction is; If you are using the .NET Framework then use VS.NET. Otherwise stick with VS6. I use the .NET Framework. * And all the exceptions to the rule can pipe down; have a fag, calm down and enjoy your pseudo-Friday
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
Paul Watson wrote: Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are ...faster at typing in function definitions manually anyway, so don't give a shit... :rolleyes:
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Fat and soft, pink and weak / Foot and thigh, tongue and cheek You know I'm told they swallow you whole / Skin and bone. - Queens Of The Stone Age, Mosquito Song
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Bangerman wrote: Which idiots did they user test this junk on. And people wonder why I never bothered to learn all this fancy-shmancy IDE stuff. That way, when I upgrade, I don't have the slightest clue as to what I'm missing, because I don't use all that fancy wizard and auto-code generation stuff! Ignorance is truly bliss. Don't worry though, they'll screw with the editor too, one day. They'll probably cite homeland security as a reason to hit every key twice. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"hear hear! death to wizards! as a friend used to say: "Wizards, twice the UI with half the functionality!" -c
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Paul Watson wrote: Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are ...faster at typing in function definitions manually anyway, so don't give a shit... :rolleyes:
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Fat and soft, pink and weak / Foot and thigh, tongue and cheek You know I'm told they swallow you whole / Skin and bone. - Queens Of The Stone Age, Mosquito Song
Shog9 wrote: ...faster at typing in function definitions manually anyway, so don't give a sh*t... Holy crap you old rear guard type chaps still type? WOW! As a VB user I naturally drag and drop words from my Dictionary Toolbar into the editor. It allows for RPD (Rapid Post Development.) Way better than actually typing. ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
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.S.Rod. wrote: So you manage bug or dev activity file grouping over time with a separate .txt file ? No, with a simple Public Folder with task items on our Exchange Server. Simplicity rules!
It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)
Alright, that's simple collaboration put into practice, but the task items can easily be unrelated to the actual checkins/checkouts, hence the trouble. That said, it is probably not a concern in small teams. But for 150+ teams, ... aie! aie! aie!
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Shog9 wrote: ...faster at typing in function definitions manually anyway, so don't give a sh*t... Holy crap you old rear guard type chaps still type? WOW! As a VB user I naturally drag and drop words from my Dictionary Toolbar into the editor. It allows for RPD (Rapid Post Development.) Way better than actually typing. ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
D&D rox. Too bad MS has made it such a worthless PITA for so many years. The sidebars in InterDev (and now VS.NET) were long overdue...
- Shog9 -
Fat and soft, pink and weak / Foot and thigh, tongue and cheek You know I'm told they swallow you whole / Skin and bone. - Queens Of The Stone Age, Mosquito Song
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Alright, that's simple collaboration put into practice, but the task items can easily be unrelated to the actual checkins/checkouts, hence the trouble. That said, it is probably not a concern in small teams. But for 150+ teams, ... aie! aie! aie!
.S.Rod. wrote: Alright, that's simple collaboration put into practice, but the task items can easily be unrelated to the actual checkins/checkouts, hence the trouble. We use the commitinfo script (CVS has some script on the CVSROOT dir that act as "events" or "delegates", and commitinfo is a pre-commit event to validate a commit) to check if the proper Task ID (communication with Exchange is made via simple HTTP) was set on the commit comments, the Task on the Exchange is updated. Again, a simple script solved this problem for us.
It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)
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l a u r e n wrote: thats why i went back to vs6 Obviously there is a very clear distinction forming here. Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. Leet newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers wot any .NET Framework bits use are flocking to VS.NET, loving it to bits and announcing the death of VS6. So really the distinction is; If you are using the .NET Framework then use VS.NET. Otherwise stick with VS6. I use the .NET Framework. * And all the exceptions to the rule can pipe down; have a fag, calm down and enjoy your pseudo-Friday
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
Paul Watson wrote: have a fag I'll have you know that I'm straight. :suss:
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa -
Uhm. I'm not using the .NET Framework, but I do C++ programming with VS.NET. Am I the official C++ bastard? :) -- Nicotine free: day 3
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I'm not using the .NET Framework, but I do C++ programming with VS.NET Same here ;) I guess we are the "newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers" - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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l a u r e n wrote: thats why i went back to vs6 Obviously there is a very clear distinction forming here. Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. Leet newbie wannabie roxor haxor programmers wot any .NET Framework bits use are flocking to VS.NET, loving it to bits and announcing the death of VS6. So really the distinction is; If you are using the .NET Framework then use VS.NET. Otherwise stick with VS6. I use the .NET Framework. * And all the exceptions to the rule can pipe down; have a fag, calm down and enjoy your pseudo-Friday
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
Paul Watson wrote: Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. LOL :laugh: Or should it be: Stupid coders who whish it still was the dark middleage stick with VC6, and hates VC7... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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For the past 5-6 years I have been editing my files and when the file is checked in I type the first character, it bleeped, threw up the checkout box, I hit enter and typed the rest in. Now, I start typing and all the damn text goes into their checkout edit box, including the CR. I would like to shoot the idiot who thought of that. Its Ok if you realise the file is checked out, but if you have a whole load of files open you cant tell which are checked out and which are not. Why didnt they give any feedback, this is VISUAL Studio, maybe a red LH window border or something so I can at least see that a dialog is going to pop up...
Hell I thought it was funny .....
Yeah I hate when that happens. Specially when you are tyring to fix some sort of a production bug under tremendous pressure and that damn box shows up and hitting enter does nothing. Drives me nuts. I almost always hand code, so don't really miss the old wizards in VS 6.0 and have no clue about the new ones in the .Net IDE. Another thing that drives me nuts and actually has nothing to do with the .Net IDE is that my stupid antivirus software has a script blocker. So I cannot hit help or else the IDE crashes. It also crashes each time I shut down the IDE. Shutting down the script blocker does not seem to help. I have to turn it off, tell it not to start automatically, and then reboot. What a pain. Stupid McAfee......
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Paul Watson wrote: have a fag I'll have you know that I'm straight. :suss:
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaRohit Sinha wrote: I'll have you know that I'm straight For your aunt's aunty I sure hope so. Plus your lips are purple. ;) p.s. Looks like we might just beat the Bangladeshies ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
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Shog9 wrote: ...faster at typing in function definitions manually anyway, so don't give a sh*t... Holy crap you old rear guard type chaps still type? WOW! As a VB user I naturally drag and drop words from my Dictionary Toolbar into the editor. It allows for RPD (Rapid Post Development.) Way better than actually typing. ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
What? No voice recognition software?? Amatuer! ;P BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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Rohit Sinha wrote: I'll have you know that I'm straight For your aunt's aunty I sure hope so. Plus your lips are purple. ;) p.s. Looks like we might just beat the Bangladeshies ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson
Paul Watson wrote: For your aunt's aunty I sure hope so. Well, she got what she wanted. I now I have my eyes set on my uncle's aunty. :rolleyes: Paul Watson wrote: Looks like we might just beat the Bangladeshies Yeah, so we might get to thrash your team's South African ass in the final yet. Prepare to get assaulted. :cool:
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa -
What? No voice recognition software?? Amatuer! ;P BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
What? No Brain Wave Detection software? So how is the weather like in the Stone Age? Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons? If you want I can send you an ass-load. ;P
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother Teresa -
What? No Brain Wave Detection software? So how is the weather like in the Stone Age? Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons? If you want I can send you an ass-load. ;P
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaRohit Sinha wrote: No Brain Wave Detection software? I'm working on it... :) Just watching "What Women Want" for research... :rolleyes: Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact" -
What? No Brain Wave Detection software? So how is the weather like in the Stone Age? Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons? If you want I can send you an ass-load. ;P
Regards,Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
- Mother TeresaRohit Sinha wrote: Brain Wave Detection software Grog no understand. Rohit Sinha wrote: So how is the weather like in the Stone Age Great big fireball in sky. Grog no like heat. :rolleyes: Rohit Sinha wrote: Need some more stones to make your ahem, weapons ** Grog looks up from pointy stick ** Stone? weapon? :confused: BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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Paul Watson wrote: Roxor haxor programmers wot C++ use are sticking with VS6 and can't stand VS.NET. LOL :laugh: Or should it be: Stupid coders who whish it still was the dark middleage stick with VC6, and hates VC7... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: Stupid coders who whish it still was the dark middleage stick with VC6, and hates VC7 :laugh: Or those of us who have just finished uni and couldn't afford it :( Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"