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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Minitel, VHS (Over Beta Max) and the Internet all succeeded because of porn so yeah, nothing new here. And whats going to make lifelike robotics succeed? Yep, sex dolls. And the Japs will be first with this, they already have a large industry making them. Question is, will it be legal to have sex with a 2 year old robot even if it looks 16? :)

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    Sander Rossel
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    Munchies_Matt wrote:

    Question is, will it be legal to have sex with a 2 year old robot even if it looks 16?

    The real question is... No, never mind :~ X|

    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      Minitel, VHS (Over Beta Max) and the Internet all succeeded because of porn so yeah, nothing new here. And whats going to make lifelike robotics succeed? Yep, sex dolls. And the Japs will be first with this, they already have a large industry making them. Question is, will it be legal to have sex with a 2 year old robot even if it looks 16? :)

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      It's not really sex, it's just a fancy masturbatory aid.

      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        I'd need a bigger kitchen counter though.

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        And stronger... the weight of them! :)

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        • L Lost User

          Yeah they are there, but really they need to ramp up production to get a good rile out of the over religious that seem to think they can control everyone's life. I am thinking they should be about as common as a toaster. That'll do it.

          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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          Problem is, its the end of the human race. Once you can get a robot to give you good head whats the point getting married? :)

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            Question is, will it be legal to have sex with a 2 year old robot even if it looks 16?

            The real question is... No, never mind :~ X|

            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            Munchies_Matt
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            Sander Rossel wrote:

            The real question is...

            Its a real legal pandora's box isnt it?

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              It's not really sex, it's just a fancy masturbatory aid.

              #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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              Yet in many countries cartoon imagery of under 16s for sexual purposes is illegal. The UK is in this list, pretty sure most western countries are too. So for those with particular tastes will robotics provide an answer? Its a legal minefield for sure.

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                I do recall, quite some years ago, that THE most popular adult comic book featured The Rapeman - Wikipedia[^] I like watching old B&W Samurai movies - but the days with the importance of 'honor' and such seem to becoming the very distant past, indeed.
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                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Link Fail.

                What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  Yet in many countries cartoon imagery of under 16s for sexual purposes is illegal. The UK is in this list, pretty sure most western countries are too. So for those with particular tastes will robotics provide an answer? Its a legal minefield for sure.

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  There was a case here a few years ago where I live where the police found child porn on some guy's computer but he couldn't be prosecuted since it was all animated. X| :thumbsdown: I think that robotic devices, however life-like, would be seen as nothing more than sophisticated vibrators and unit massagers.

                  #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    There was a case here a few years ago where I live where the police found child porn on some guy's computer but he couldn't be prosecuted since it was all animated. X| :thumbsdown: I think that robotic devices, however life-like, would be seen as nothing more than sophisticated vibrators and unit massagers.

                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                    since it was all animated. X| :thumbsdown:

                    Is that a federal law pr state law that alllows this then? Of course by extension child like robots would also be legal. In the UK cartonns are not legal, so robotic children would also not be. Of course you have to ask the question, if robots provide an outlet for their desires do they protect children so regardless of the questionable taste of the things should they be allowed (and the same goes therefore for animated child porn)?

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      Problem is, its the end of the human race. Once you can get a robot to give you good head whats the point getting married? :)

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                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      Once you can get a robot to give you good head whats the point getting married? :)

                      Maybe we should be asking our selves that... Divorces have skyrocketed, who is to say that marriage is what keeps society ticking? It does not seem we are naturally not monogomous but say we are to match societal structure. I know you meant it as a joke though. Just saying. Right now here in the US the GOP platform is starting their new "war on XYZ" declaring pron as an epidemic. Seriously? How do they figure? The only thing I can think is these knuckleheads themselves destroyed their marriages through cheating and wanking and now think they have the right to push their broken ideas onto society.

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

                        since it was all animated. X| :thumbsdown:

                        Is that a federal law pr state law that alllows this then? Of course by extension child like robots would also be legal. In the UK cartonns are not legal, so robotic children would also not be. Of course you have to ask the question, if robots provide an outlet for their desires do they protect children so regardless of the questionable taste of the things should they be allowed (and the same goes therefore for animated child porn)?

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        Is that a federal law pr state law that alllows this then?

                        I don't know...

                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          Once you can get a robot to give you good head whats the point getting married? :)

                          Maybe we should be asking our selves that... Divorces have skyrocketed, who is to say that marriage is what keeps society ticking? It does not seem we are naturally not monogomous but say we are to match societal structure. I know you meant it as a joke though. Just saying. Right now here in the US the GOP platform is starting their new "war on XYZ" declaring pron as an epidemic. Seriously? How do they figure? The only thing I can think is these knuckleheads themselves destroyed their marriages through cheating and wanking and now think they have the right to push their broken ideas onto society.

                          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                          Yeah, it was tongue in cheek, wives also do the washing and ironing! :omg: :) Its a tricky thing. Human kids take a long time to grow to adulthood. During that time they are of course dependent and it is a two person job, which ever way it is divided, to bring up kids, but, it is not natural for a man to stay with one woman, any more than it is for an ape to do the same. We arent birds, we have different motivations. So perhaps we should have kids bought up by the state, perhaps with quotas of births, produced from egg and sperm donors, and paid for, and supported to adult hood, by general taxation. It is at least a fair system, with every child getting the same start in life. And given the birth rates of many European countries is well below maintenance levels something that might have to be considered. Of course Huxley foresaw this in Brave New World. A good read, if more extreme than what I am proposing.

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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            Munchies_Matt wrote:

                            Is that a federal law pr state law that alllows this then?

                            I don't know...

                            #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                            The US has some odd laws sometimes, at least odd to a European, where we expect tougher laws on decent behaviour.

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              The US has some odd laws sometimes, at least odd to a European, where we expect tougher laws on decent behaviour.

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                              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                              In this case, it's more of a case that the current law didn't cover that situation. The laws sometimes are too specific. But then again, that's a probably a good thing. Wouldn't want some bureaucrat suddenly deciding on a whim that something one has been doing for years without issue is suddenly illegal because some law is overbroad and the bureaucrat's knickers are stuck up his arse.

                              #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Yeah, it was tongue in cheek, wives also do the washing and ironing! :omg: :) Its a tricky thing. Human kids take a long time to grow to adulthood. During that time they are of course dependent and it is a two person job, which ever way it is divided, to bring up kids, but, it is not natural for a man to stay with one woman, any more than it is for an ape to do the same. We arent birds, we have different motivations. So perhaps we should have kids bought up by the state, perhaps with quotas of births, produced from egg and sperm donors, and paid for, and supported to adult hood, by general taxation. It is at least a fair system, with every child getting the same start in life. And given the birth rates of many European countries is well below maintenance levels something that might have to be considered. Of course Huxley foresaw this in Brave New World. A good read, if more extreme than what I am proposing.

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                                Yeah I would agree. That is the basic direction we are likely to trend. When our society was smaller things were different. For one, children were being raised significantly different. In general, society to a child was the large family they lived with. This is simply not true anymore and has gone to another level in that society is beyond our narrow scoped community being a city, county, state, and even nation state. Now society has grown so much there are numerous children not even being raised by their direct parents because the parents are to busy in society or lacked the parenting from their parents and do not know how creating a cyclical behavior. We are approaching our singularity, and this very topic is likely to be a big part of it. We as a race will be defining and redefining what it is to be a parent and what it is to be a guardian over the next few decades. It is a dangerous but necessary road for us to discover our potential.

                                Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                  In this case, it's more of a case that the current law didn't cover that situation. The laws sometimes are too specific. But then again, that's a probably a good thing. Wouldn't want some bureaucrat suddenly deciding on a whim that something one has been doing for years without issue is suddenly illegal because some law is overbroad and the bureaucrat's knickers are stuck up his arse.

                                  #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  Odd, just looked it up and it is quite specific "any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (someone under 18 years of age). Visual depictions include photographs, videos, digital or computer generated images indistinguishable from an actual minor, and images created, adapted, or modified, but appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor. " in not including cartoon images. Weird. Perhaps its done to protect paintings such as this: Two Adolescents by Salvador Dali | Oil Painting Reproduction[^]

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