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What's your definition of a "senior" developer?

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  • M Mark_Wallace

    A senior developer is one who, when he needs to search the web, automatically starts to type altavista.com

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    David Crow
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    I started with that search engine! :doh:

    "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

    "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

    "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      I believe that 62 is when one starts reaping the benefits afforded a senior.

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      Clifford Nelson
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      Sorry, we are getting age creep and now someone must be at least 67.

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      • D David Crow

        I started with that search engine! :doh:

        "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

        "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

        "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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        Mark_Wallace
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        It's a fair bet that a lot of us did.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          A senior developer is one who, when he needs to search the web, automatically starts to type altavista.com

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          webcrawler!! Don't forget the cool logo for webcrawler!

          Jeremy Falcon

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          • L Lost User

            I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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            Sander Rossel
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            A ploy by HR. When there's a senior there are also mediors and juniors, people you can pay less. Ultimately, it's just a stupid label people get when they're old, have worked in the industry for a while or have worked for the company for a while. You'd expect them to have deep knowledge of software and/or hardware engineering, but judging from the "seniors" I know it isn't really a prerequisite :sigh:

            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              It's a fair bet that a lot of us did.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              And we watched Ninja Turtles.

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                A ploy by HR. When there's a senior there are also mediors and juniors, people you can pay less. Ultimately, it's just a stupid label people get when they're old, have worked in the industry for a while or have worked for the company for a while. You'd expect them to have deep knowledge of software and/or hardware engineering, but judging from the "seniors" I know it isn't really a prerequisite :sigh:

                Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                but judging from the "seniors" I know it isn't really a prerequisite

                Most people don't take their education as seriously as others. Welcome to life. :sigh:

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                • L Lost User

                  I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                  KarstenK
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                  a 40+ developer who knows how to get rid off all bugs and fergot to get team leader or manager :~

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    A senior developer is one who, when he needs to search the web, automatically starts to type altavista.com

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    Search the web? We know how to read a manual. Heck in most cases we wrote the bally thing!

                    veni bibi saltavi

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                    • L Lost User

                      I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      At the very least, a minimum of seven [paid] years in a single discipline.

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                      • D David Crow

                        I started with that search engine! :doh:

                        "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                        "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                        "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        Pretty sure that was his point. ;)

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        • L Lost User

                          I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                          MacSpudster
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                          One that seyz: "I've seen ur code, and it stinks."

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                          • L Lost User

                            I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                            Stephen Gonzalez
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                            If you don't see him(her) in diaper, then he(she) is a senior.

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              Search the web? We know how to read a manual. Heck in most cases we wrote the bally thing!

                              veni bibi saltavi

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              :thumbsup:

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                And we watched Ninja Turtles.

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                Watched? The kiddies watched. We'd read the comics. We sneered at the kiddies who watched.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • J Jeremy Falcon

                                  webcrawler!! Don't forget the cool logo for webcrawler!

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  But they couldn't get it down to 32x32, so they were doomed.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • M Mark_Wallace

                                    But they couldn't get it down to 32x32, so they were doomed.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    :-D

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      Watched? The kiddies watched. We'd read the comics. We sneered at the kiddies who watched.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Jeremy Falcon
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                                      Didn't have time to read... I had video games to play.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                                        kmoorevs
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                                        I think it's relative to the number of years one has been practicing the craft, typically at least 7 years imho. It implies that one has enough knowledge to solve problems at most levels without handholding which apparently is not always true. :laugh:

                                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                        • P PeejayAdams

                                          I thought at first that this was going to be about someone else you had a bit of a homework rant at (guy with the chess problem). Now, I'd be seriously worried if the guy who posted that called himself a senior dev and was somewhat relieved to see that he doesn't but I'm intrigued as to what question inspired this post ... I guess it would be unethical of you to tell us, though. Or would it?

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                                          Lost User
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                                          PeejayAdams wrote:

                                          it would be unethical

                                          I wouldn't say it would be unethical, just immaterial. Just seeing a rash of accounts that have been open for anywhere from 4 to 15 years and proclaim themselves to be senior developers at their company and yet can't perform the simplest of tasks, like assigning values to variables or debugging their code to fix an NRE or can't fix a simple missing reference error. One person I am thinking of has very proudly proclaimed that he won't do his own basic research and runs to the forums here all the time to get people to do his research for him. One help vampire got so many people to write his code for him, he was able to get some sort of position teaching others! And, people here still write code for him.

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