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What's your definition of a "senior" developer?

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  • C Clifford Nelson

    Sorry, we are getting age creep and now someone must be at least 67.

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    ISanti
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    still three years to be a senior X| X| X| X|

    Sorry for my bad English

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    • J jgakenhe

      Yes, we have cubes. The Agile experiment didn't work out in our org culture; so the cubes were brought back. Actually, I have a small office, but the "senior developers" that I have worked with tend to have 6 months of food and drink in their cubicles just to let everyone know they aren't planning on retiring anytime soon.

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      LOL!! I detest Agile and started refusing Agile dev shops, saying "I'm not a team player" (apparently this is worse than not knowing how to code ... :omg: ) And even though the company who contracts me gives us lunch, I still have loads of snacks lying around. I'm not a senior developer, though, I'm more of a senior moment developer :-\

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      • S Slacker007

        If you forgot why you came into work today, then you are a senior developer.

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        piyush_singh
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        :thumbsup:

        Piyush K Singh

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        • R Ri_

          He has most likely persuaded himself that he is a brilliant teacher. :-\ The levels of self-delusuion in software development is staggering... :confused:

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          PeejayAdams
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          Yes, you're probably right about self-delusion and I may be being a bit cynical in thinking that these people are actually aware that they're clueless. Thinking about the dozens of developers that I've worked with over the years, the cr@p ones have all had one thing in common - you can't tell them anything because they already know everything (even if they can't actually code their way out of a wet paper bag). Conversely, all the good and great developers I've worked with have been completely open to ideas; don't get defensive when criticised and are more than happy to share their knowledge.

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          • L Lost User

            I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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            ClockMeister
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            How 'bout one that's almost 60 and has been doing this for 40 years? ;-)

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            • L Lost User

              I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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              ClockMeister
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              How about one that's almost 60 and has been doing this for 40 years? ;-)

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              • R Ri_

                LOL!! I detest Agile and started refusing Agile dev shops, saying "I'm not a team player" (apparently this is worse than not knowing how to code ... :omg: ) And even though the company who contracts me gives us lunch, I still have loads of snacks lying around. I'm not a senior developer, though, I'm more of a senior moment developer :-\

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                Herbie Mountjoy
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                So a senior developer has a posh cubicle and keys for the executive loo.

                We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                • V Vincent Maverick Durano

                  If one knows how to properly use google, then you can be classified as senior. :rolleyes:

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                  KC CahabaGBA
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                  But then 'Who' defines what is proper use of Google?

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                  • C Clifford Nelson

                    Sorry, we are getting age creep and now someone must be at least 67.

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                    Kirk 10389821
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                    No, it's still 65, just base 16 :-)

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                    • L Lost User

                      I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                      mBuchwald
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                      Developer who has outlasted all the other developers at the company.

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                      • L Lost User

                        I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                        Gary Huck
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                        I've been a developer a long time (doesn't matter how many years). I'm a senior developer because now I can the senior price for the movie theatre, golf courses, state parks, etc.

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                        • L Lost User

                          I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                          agolddog
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                          A bullshit term which idiots with which those who worry about titles and not effectiveness concern themselves.

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                          • L Lost User

                            I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                            Mikhael Loo
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                            A senior developer is a developer valued by her peers. Everyone who goes to her consistently receives quality help, advice, and guidance.

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                            • V Vincent Maverick Durano

                              If one knows how to properly use google, then you can be classified as senior. :rolleyes:

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                              Keviniano Gayo
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                              I agree! And asking the right questions.. ;P

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                              • L Lost User

                                I think my definition of a senior dev is vastly different than others. I am not so sure that a 10 year member working as a senior developer would be asking us to do his homework assignments for him.... So, what would your definition of a senior developer be?

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                                TylerMc007
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                                If the person has heard of an AS400, experienced the year 2000 problem, and knows who Gilligan is, then they are a Sr. Developer. ;-) (Oh yes, and they use ASCII faces instead of emoticons)

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                                • K KC CahabaGBA

                                  But then 'Who' defines what is proper use of Google?

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                                  Vincent Maverick Durano
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                                  KC@CahabaGBA wrote:

                                  But then 'Who' defines what is proper use of Google?

                                  Chuck Norris

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                                  • D David Crow

                                    I started with that search engine! :doh:

                                    "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                    "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                    "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                                    Alister Morton
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                                    Me too. Sorry, shouldn't that be "AOL" :-)

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      PeejayAdams wrote:

                                      it would be unethical

                                      I wouldn't say it would be unethical, just immaterial. Just seeing a rash of accounts that have been open for anywhere from 4 to 15 years and proclaim themselves to be senior developers at their company and yet can't perform the simplest of tasks, like assigning values to variables or debugging their code to fix an NRE or can't fix a simple missing reference error. One person I am thinking of has very proudly proclaimed that he won't do his own basic research and runs to the forums here all the time to get people to do his research for him. One help vampire got so many people to write his code for him, he was able to get some sort of position teaching others! And, people here still write code for him.

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                                      Charles Programmer
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                                      "people here still write code for him." I think that's unethical. Teach, don't proxy.

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                                      • D David Crow

                                        I started with that search engine! :doh:

                                        "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                        "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                        "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                                        Charles Programmer
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                                        Altavista was awesome. Do you remember how it returned ftp results? I guess now that that's considered the "dark net."

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                                        • C Clifford Nelson

                                          Sorry, we are getting age creep and now someone must be at least 67.

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                                          rdmjr
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                                          Depends on the benefit you're after. For a "senior citizen waiver" on tuition for audited classes at my local community/technical college, 60's enough (and yes, I'm auditing classes - Circuit Analysis I last semester, Circuit Analysis II and Digital Systems I this quarter - eventually I'll be able to start building my very own personal Cylons!). -Bob

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