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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Its spyware, period. I would never use it.

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    Chris Maunder
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    You need to do better than that. At the very least explain how Windows differs from macOS or anything Google has released in terms of tracking what you do.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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      You need to do better than that. At the very least explain how Windows differs from macOS or anything Google has released in terms of tracking what you do.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      Nish Nishant
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      I guess what he meant is he won't use any OS at all :-) Not sure how he managed to post on this forum though.

      Regards, Nish


      Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      • W W Balboos GHB

        Because it's my computer. I bought it. It's mine to do with as I wish. If Microslut (or anyone else) wishes to make use of it then they can pay for the privilege. For those who like that model, they've products like Office365 - where you use whatever they have to offer on the web and they can change it at will - and for those who don't - they buy the software outright. They do make you buy Win10, don't they? [TOS doesn't cut it]. Leading back to my statement in a different thread: My upgrade from Win7 will be Linux.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        Nelek
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        Andriod does the same. My wife got a new samsung, the day before yesterday the nano card arrived, so I activated the cell phone and started configuring it... 1 hour later I had gone through 90% of the settings and guess what... Popup notification Andriod is Updating... :omg: :omg: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I let it go, went to bed and yesterday continue with it... almost all settings I had changed on tuesday where back to default value, most of them allowing access to micro, pictures and so on to the Google Apps, activating settings that I had inactivated... I found it not so different to what you describe about microsoft

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Windows 10 software condemned by Which? - BBC News[^] Sorry if it's a repost.

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          Mike Hankey
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          Sounds like a Which hunt.

          New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta
          I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!

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          • W W Balboos GHB

            Because it's my computer. I bought it. It's mine to do with as I wish. If Microslut (or anyone else) wishes to make use of it then they can pay for the privilege. For those who like that model, they've products like Office365 - where you use whatever they have to offer on the web and they can change it at will - and for those who don't - they buy the software outright. They do make you buy Win10, don't they? [TOS doesn't cut it]. Leading back to my statement in a different thread: My upgrade from Win7 will be Linux.

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Try to avoid responding to troll tactics.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • N Nelek

              Andriod does the same. My wife got a new samsung, the day before yesterday the nano card arrived, so I activated the cell phone and started configuring it... 1 hour later I had gone through 90% of the settings and guess what... Popup notification Andriod is Updating... :omg: :omg: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I let it go, went to bed and yesterday continue with it... almost all settings I had changed on tuesday where back to default value, most of them allowing access to micro, pictures and so on to the Google Apps, activating settings that I had inactivated... I found it not so different to what you describe about microsoft

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Nelek wrote:

              I found it not so different to what you describe about microsoft

              ... Except that you can switch it off and only get notifications about updates*, which you can then choose to install or not. * Open the Google Play app, go to Account > Settings, and it's the first setting in the list.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                Sounds like a Which hunt.

                New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta
                I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Only the crowd isn't shouting the word "duck".

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • N Nelek

                  Andriod does the same. My wife got a new samsung, the day before yesterday the nano card arrived, so I activated the cell phone and started configuring it... 1 hour later I had gone through 90% of the settings and guess what... Popup notification Andriod is Updating... :omg: :omg: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: I let it go, went to bed and yesterday continue with it... almost all settings I had changed on tuesday where back to default value, most of them allowing access to micro, pictures and so on to the Google Apps, activating settings that I had inactivated... I found it not so different to what you describe about microsoft

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  realJSOP
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                  When you buy an android or apple mobile device, you have no choice in what OS you use. On your PC/laptop, you do. Even Apple desktops/laptops can have Windows or Linux installed as opposed to the native Apple OS. I've never had anything but an android phone (current phones is a Samsung Galaxy 5s), and none of the ones I've owned have ever once auto-updated anything. Ever. My problem with Win10 is that it carries the "app store" paradigm over to the PC, and forces updates on you. I don't want that. If I did, I'd have an Apple where it's pretty much always been that way.

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                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                    Because it's my computer. I bought it. It's mine to do with as I wish.

                    And you chose to install a Microsoft operating system and chose to agree to their terms. It is your computer, so if you don't like it then install something else. That is your right. It is also their right to update their software whenever they want to. In fact, they have to or else they face serious legal consequences for not keeping a product secure.

                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                    My upgrade from Win7 will be Linux.

                    Ya, I tried that. Good luck. Linux sucks. Hopefully it works for you.

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    Go collect your wu mao.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      Because it's my computer. I bought it. It's mine to do with as I wish. If Microslut (or anyone else) wishes to make use of it then they can pay for the privilege. For those who like that model, they've products like Office365 - where you use whatever they have to offer on the web and they can change it at will - and for those who don't - they buy the software outright. They do make you buy Win10, don't they? [TOS doesn't cut it]. Leading back to my statement in a different thread: My upgrade from Win7 will be Linux.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Corporal Agarn
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                      W∴ Balboos wrote:

                      For those who like that model, they've products like Office365

                      I am glad I do not use this as when Windows is updating it takes all my very limited band width. Hey, 0.7 M download is smokin fast where I am. :mad:

                      Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.

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                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                        Sounds like a Which hunt.

                        New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta
                        I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!

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                        Vark111
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                        I like which hunts. Maybe we'll see some wherewolves involved as well?

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Nelek wrote:

                          I found it not so different to what you describe about microsoft

                          ... Except that you can switch it off and only get notifications about updates*, which you can then choose to install or not. * Open the Google Play app, go to Account > Settings, and it's the first setting in the list.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Nelek
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                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          * Open the Google Play app, go to Account > Settings, and it's the first setting in the list.

                          I thought all settings could be managed locally on the phone. I have no Android so no google account experience. Thank you for the hint

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            You need to do better than that. At the very least explain how Windows differs from macOS or anything Google has released in terms of tracking what you do.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            Ask it this way, since MSFT arent asking money for Windows 10, how is it making money for them? --edit-- Oh, and I wouldnt buy a mac either, I am just not that image conscious. Didnt you guess that when we met? :)

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                              I guess what he meant is he won't use any OS at all :-) Not sure how he managed to post on this forum though.

                              Regards, Nish


                              Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              Stop sucking up to Chris. ;P I use XP, 2K and Ubuntu by the way.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Ask it this way, since MSFT arent asking money for Windows 10, how is it making money for them? --edit-- Oh, and I wouldnt buy a mac either, I am just not that image conscious. Didnt you guess that when we met? :)

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Firstly, you're a very stylish man and you know it. A macbook draped around your shoulders would truly set off the Swarovski miniture apple watch earings you were showing off. Secondly, ... here's an article about where MS makes its money[^]. What's fascinating to me is that ad revenue (from Bing) isn't mentioned.

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  I guess what he meant is he won't use any OS at all :-) Not sure how he managed to post on this forum though.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                  Chris Maunder
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                                  He's an embedded guy - he probably hacked the front door keypad and spent several hours tapping wires together to create a binary representation of his post that was then translated and transmitted along some dodgy 9600 baud service line. If I change one of this page's element IDs it'll totally screw him up. Listen carefully as I make the change and you will hear the howl of rage.

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  • N Nelek

                                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                    * Open the Google Play app, go to Account > Settings, and it's the first setting in the list.

                                    I thought all settings could be managed locally on the phone. I have no Android so no google account experience. Thank you for the hint

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    The Google Play app is on the phone. You can also go to Phone Settings > Apps, and select individual apps that you want to allow to update automatically -- I've only done that for antivirus signatures, but some people allow a few more.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      Firstly, you're a very stylish man and you know it. A macbook draped around your shoulders would truly set off the Swarovski miniture apple watch earings you were showing off. Secondly, ... here's an article about where MS makes its money[^]. What's fascinating to me is that ad revenue (from Bing) isn't mentioned.

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      Dammit Chris, you promised not to tell anyone! :) I find that the sudden decision to dump win10 for free, and push it at every opportunity (like evry single link on MSDN takes you to windows 10 it seems) odd, and a bit desperate. Now how about porting .Net to Linux? Thats weird too. Do they really think Windows has run its course and is at risk of dying? MSFT makes their money on Office and screwing corporates for useless support contracts doesnt it? Anyway, lets look at the link... Yeah, so this is based on a 'post PC' premise, ie, windows has become unimportant to them. Kind of confirms what I said. --edit-- This is wht I switched from windows kernel to linux kernel, the growth there is impressive, while windows kernel is dying out in the marketplace.

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                                      • M Munchies_Matt

                                        Dammit Chris, you promised not to tell anyone! :) I find that the sudden decision to dump win10 for free, and push it at every opportunity (like evry single link on MSDN takes you to windows 10 it seems) odd, and a bit desperate. Now how about porting .Net to Linux? Thats weird too. Do they really think Windows has run its course and is at risk of dying? MSFT makes their money on Office and screwing corporates for useless support contracts doesnt it? Anyway, lets look at the link... Yeah, so this is based on a 'post PC' premise, ie, windows has become unimportant to them. Kind of confirms what I said. --edit-- This is wht I switched from windows kernel to linux kernel, the growth there is impressive, while windows kernel is dying out in the marketplace.

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        Remember that Apple started making OS updates free way before Windows did.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                          Sounds like a Which hunt.

                                          New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta
                                          I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!

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                                          Joe Woodbury
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                                          I'll bet Whoville started it.

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