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Jonny Newman wrote: Drinking age is 18 here and 21 in the US. Now THATS stupid. I hope you mean stupid for the USA? ;P Yes I agree though, when you first discover alcohol legally (i.e. drinking socially and openly) then it takes some people (well me and my friends) a little while to find where they sit with regards to tollerance and behaviour - what you can and can't do, that sort of stuff. I am glad I went through that before I had the responsibilities of a daytime job, bills, and possibly a family, etc. If I started drinking today I can see it causing a hell of a lot of problems while I found my place, and I am, by and large, fairly responsible. Jonny Newman wrote: The Consent ages are stupid. The current list of age-related restrictions in the UK is as follows: 5 alcohol consumption under parental control entry to pubs for which a children's certificate has been obtained (except Northern Ireland) 10 agricultural or horticultural employment permitted under parental supervision 12 entry to 12 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 12 certificate video films and games ownership of a pet 13 part-time employment if a work permit is obtained (up to 25 hours a week for 13/14s) 14 employment as a babysitter entry to pubs without children's certificates (except Northern Ireland) purchase of airguns 15 entry to 15 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 15 certificate video films and games part-time employment if a work permit is obtained (up to 35 hours a week for 15/16s) 16 marriage sex full-time employment consumption of beer, cider, sherry (and in Scotland wine) if consuming a meal outside the 'bar' area of a pub or restaurant (except Northern Ireland) purchase of tobacco purchase of lottery tickets & scratchcards purchase of knives purchase of sparklers & party poppers purchase of razor blades purchase of liqueur chocolates 17 driving a car purchase of crossbows 18 voting in local, national and European elections purchase of lighter fuel & restricted solvents purchase of fireworks purchase of alcohol not previously permitted as above entry to pubs in Northern Ireland entry to most nightclubs entry to betting shops and casinos playing fruit machines entry to licensed sex shops entry to 18 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 18 certificate video films and games (and R-18 films from licensed video premises) 2
:omg: You've done your homework. Or was it a google? David Wulff ³ wrote: I hope you mean stupid for the USA? Yup. I have been drinking, at home or at friends houses for a number of years. I've been to town a couple of times but found it a bit shit considering the hype about it. I'd much prefer to go to a propper pub than these new fangled clubs. Too much hassle for expensive booze and crap music. However my 18th birthday is gonna be a CRACKER. On the 15th itself I intent going out and getting royally drunk with my closest compadrés. Then a few days later, I'll be holding the party of parties at the local cricket club. Again copious drinking and flirting. David Wulff ³ wrote: purchase of crossbows Woot! I've gotta get me one of those!
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
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Yes that is what I had always been led to believe. Personally I feel the age of consent should be individually decided based on the emotional maturity of the child (or indeed adult as it should be in most cases). I do feel sorry for the few cases brought to court each year where a sixteen year old boy is charged with rape for having consenting sex with his fiften year and eleven month old gf/bf, but that said I can see why they have a fixed age in place. If not you could have emotionally mature six years olds having consenting sex with forty two year olds, and at that sort of age the whole power and identity issue could have serious affects on the child even if they are able to handle the emotional aspect. (I won't go into the physical inpracticalities, it was just an example, and that would be far too wierd for this time of night.) Besides which, can you imagine having to ask to see someone's "Sexual Passport" before you started flirting with them? That would be chaos, and there would be a black market for forgeries. :suss:
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David Wulff ³ wrote: Besides which, can you imagine having to ask to see someone's "Sexual Passport" before you started flirting with them? That would be chaos, and there would be a black market for forgeries. Remember there are 12-15 year old girls who can tart themselves up to look 18 and thus attract older men. That in my eyes is wrong. Most are not emotionally mature in any way, they just WANT to be more mature. But they have no idea what they are letting themselves in for.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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Personally I think it's bloody stupid. The age of consent, marriage, majority etc. should all be the same. If we think teenagers of 16 are adult enough to have sex or marry, we should trust them to drink, vote etc. at that age too. If not, the age of consent should be raised. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Looking around at my age peers in some parts of the country, I wouldn't want them to breed, marry, drink, vote or drive at *any* age. Then again, I should have been allowed all of those aged twelve... :suss:
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Jonny Newman wrote: Drinking age is 18 here and 21 in the US. Now THATS stupid. I hope you mean stupid for the USA? ;P Yes I agree though, when you first discover alcohol legally (i.e. drinking socially and openly) then it takes some people (well me and my friends) a little while to find where they sit with regards to tollerance and behaviour - what you can and can't do, that sort of stuff. I am glad I went through that before I had the responsibilities of a daytime job, bills, and possibly a family, etc. If I started drinking today I can see it causing a hell of a lot of problems while I found my place, and I am, by and large, fairly responsible. Jonny Newman wrote: The Consent ages are stupid. The current list of age-related restrictions in the UK is as follows: 5 alcohol consumption under parental control entry to pubs for which a children's certificate has been obtained (except Northern Ireland) 10 agricultural or horticultural employment permitted under parental supervision 12 entry to 12 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 12 certificate video films and games ownership of a pet 13 part-time employment if a work permit is obtained (up to 25 hours a week for 13/14s) 14 employment as a babysitter entry to pubs without children's certificates (except Northern Ireland) purchase of airguns 15 entry to 15 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 15 certificate video films and games part-time employment if a work permit is obtained (up to 35 hours a week for 15/16s) 16 marriage sex full-time employment consumption of beer, cider, sherry (and in Scotland wine) if consuming a meal outside the 'bar' area of a pub or restaurant (except Northern Ireland) purchase of tobacco purchase of lottery tickets & scratchcards purchase of knives purchase of sparklers & party poppers purchase of razor blades purchase of liqueur chocolates 17 driving a car purchase of crossbows 18 voting in local, national and European elections purchase of lighter fuel & restricted solvents purchase of fireworks purchase of alcohol not previously permitted as above entry to pubs in Northern Ireland entry to most nightclubs entry to betting shops and casinos playing fruit machines entry to licensed sex shops entry to 18 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 18 certificate video films and games (and R-18 films from licensed video premises) 2
David Wulff ³ wrote: I hope you mean stupid for the USA? Dude, it's hard enough to keep all those idiot kids out of the bars as-is - even the 21 yr olds are bad enough. Let 'em burn off the excess enthusiasm at house parties, i say - the fewer bars you need waders to walk in the better.
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Fat and soft, pink and weak / Foot and thigh, tongue and cheek You know I'm told they swallow you whole / Skin and bone. - Queens of the Stone Age, Mosquito Song
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I knew I liked these kids for some reason. :laugh: They are INTPs too (they have my personality type). Seems weird though, here are some other famous people with INTP type... Socrates Rene Descartes Blaise Pascal Sir Isaac Newton Albert Einstein Meryl Streep Brent Spiner (Commander Data, Star Trek -- The Next Generation) Midori Ito (ice skater, Olympic silver medalist) and more...[^] well I thought it funny:rolleyes: Later,
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Personally I think it's bloody stupid. The age of consent, marriage, majority etc. should all be the same. If we think teenagers of 16 are adult enough to have sex or marry, we should trust them to drink, vote etc. at that age too. If not, the age of consent should be raised. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: The age of consent, marriage, majority etc. should all be the same. What, you want them to go out & get shitfaced while smoking and screwing, then go out and get married while still intoxicated and in high spirits, then wake up the next morning and vote en-mass for the Alka-Seltzer party?
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Fat and soft, pink and weak / Foot and thigh, tongue and cheek You know I'm told they swallow you whole / Skin and bone. - Queens of the Stone Age, Mosquito Song
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Drinking age is 18 here and 21 in the US. Now THATS stupid. :-) The Consent ages are stupid. At 16 one can: Have consentual sex and raise a family Get married (i don't know if this requires parental consent) Smoke Gamble (well buy lottery tickets) But we have to wait 2 years before we are considered adults :wtf:
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
Jonny Newman wrote: The Consent ages are stupid. I agree, it's not like it stops underage people from drinking anyway. And even more stupid, at 18 we're legal adults but have to wait 3 years before we're considered "responsible" enough to drink alcohol. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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JoeSox wrote: I knew I liked these kids for some reason. Didn't somebody post a "how many days until they turn 18" countdown on CP recently? Then you can really get to know them. (as in, the bible's usage of the term "know"). Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: The age of consent, marriage, majority etc. should all be the same. What, you want them to go out & get shitfaced while smoking and screwing, then go out and get married while still intoxicated and in high spirits, then wake up the next morning and vote en-mass for the Alka-Seltzer party?
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Fat and soft, pink and weak / Foot and thigh, tongue and cheek You know I'm told they swallow you whole / Skin and bone. - Queens of the Stone Age, Mosquito Song
Yes. If the age of majority is set right the majority will be adult enough to handle it. Personally, I think starting to drink is much less important (and requires much less responsibility) than making love, so why the hell the ages of consent is lower escapes me totally. For the record, I was 17 when I started drinking, and 20 when I made love for the first time. I'm glad it happened that way around.
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Yes. If the age of majority is set right the majority will be adult enough to handle it. Personally, I think starting to drink is much less important (and requires much less responsibility) than making love, so why the hell the ages of consent is lower escapes me totally. For the record, I was 17 when I started drinking, and 20 when I made love for the first time. I'm glad it happened that way around.
:laugh: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Jonny Newman wrote: Drinking age is 18 here and 21 in the US. Now THATS stupid. I hope you mean stupid for the USA? ;P Yes I agree though, when you first discover alcohol legally (i.e. drinking socially and openly) then it takes some people (well me and my friends) a little while to find where they sit with regards to tollerance and behaviour - what you can and can't do, that sort of stuff. I am glad I went through that before I had the responsibilities of a daytime job, bills, and possibly a family, etc. If I started drinking today I can see it causing a hell of a lot of problems while I found my place, and I am, by and large, fairly responsible. Jonny Newman wrote: The Consent ages are stupid. The current list of age-related restrictions in the UK is as follows: 5 alcohol consumption under parental control entry to pubs for which a children's certificate has been obtained (except Northern Ireland) 10 agricultural or horticultural employment permitted under parental supervision 12 entry to 12 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 12 certificate video films and games ownership of a pet 13 part-time employment if a work permit is obtained (up to 25 hours a week for 13/14s) 14 employment as a babysitter entry to pubs without children's certificates (except Northern Ireland) purchase of airguns 15 entry to 15 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 15 certificate video films and games part-time employment if a work permit is obtained (up to 35 hours a week for 15/16s) 16 marriage sex full-time employment consumption of beer, cider, sherry (and in Scotland wine) if consuming a meal outside the 'bar' area of a pub or restaurant (except Northern Ireland) purchase of tobacco purchase of lottery tickets & scratchcards purchase of knives purchase of sparklers & party poppers purchase of razor blades purchase of liqueur chocolates 17 driving a car purchase of crossbows 18 voting in local, national and European elections purchase of lighter fuel & restricted solvents purchase of fireworks purchase of alcohol not previously permitted as above entry to pubs in Northern Ireland entry to most nightclubs entry to betting shops and casinos playing fruit machines entry to licensed sex shops entry to 18 certificate cinema films purchase or rental of 18 certificate video films and games (and R-18 films from licensed video premises) 2
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yep.... :omg: I'm in one pot with :shudder: Deanna Troi and :barf: Wesley!
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David Wulff ³ wrote: Besides which, can you imagine having to ask to see someone's "Sexual Passport" before you started flirting with them? That would be chaos, and there would be a black market for forgeries. Remember there are 12-15 year old girls who can tart themselves up to look 18 and thus attract older men. That in my eyes is wrong. Most are not emotionally mature in any way, they just WANT to be more mature. But they have no idea what they are letting themselves in for.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
Very true, although to anyone with any experience of life (i.e. older than 16!) their lack of maturity does tend to make them a bit obvious. Here's a thought to stir it a bit...girls mature faster than guys (don't ask me why) so why is the ask of consent the same for both sexes? ;P Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Am I the only one who has absolutely no interest in these two girls? :suss: Mike Mullikin :beer:
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Nope. I don't either. ;) Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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lol! :laugh: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Very true, although to anyone with any experience of life (i.e. older than 16!) their lack of maturity does tend to make them a bit obvious. Here's a thought to stir it a bit...girls mature faster than guys (don't ask me why) so why is the ask of consent the same for both sexes? ;P Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Because the laws were and are being written by men? :rolleyes:
David Wulff
What the hell did I ever do to anyone?
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I think there is a new one as well... 16 Ability to purchase Red Bull in a supermarket... James.
Yes you are right, that is one more.
David Wulff
What the hell did I ever do to anyone?
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Because the laws were and are being written by men? :rolleyes:
David Wulff
What the hell did I ever do to anyone?
Yeah, tell me what's new there. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In