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  • B Bryian Tan

    For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

    Bryian Tan

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    Mark_Wallace
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    In sweat shops in Mumbai.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • B Bryian Tan

      For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

      Bryian Tan

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      Nelek
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      You can ask in the QA, if you want more junior you will have to go to a kindergarten ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Edit: Note to self, I should read the full thread before answering... that would avoid repeating jokes :doh: :doh: :doh:

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      • G Garth J Lancaster

        I fail to see the relevance of my nationality, but sure, if that's all you've got, take a swipe at me on that basis

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        Yes, that's unforgivable.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Garth J Lancaster wrote:

          doesn't it depend in what you're looking for Bryian ? 'junior .net developer' could mean 'reads c# and makes coffee' for example - I see a lot of jobs advertised for 'full stack' developers - I don't have ASP.Net experience so that rules me out - 'kids' today seem more interested in JavaScript frameworks - maybe they get a quicker 'hit' ie see something happening by using them - I've never been one for quick gratification

          Plus you're a bloody Kiwi.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          Yes, that's unforgivable.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • B Bryian Tan

            For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

            Bryian Tan

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            Wastedtalent
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            Businesses don't have time, finance or resources to train .net developers any more as they're all curtting costs, and Universities seem to teach Java, PHP and Javascript as it's much cheaper to set up labs with Linux than Windows [although with .net core that might change, though I wouldn't bank on it].

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            • B Bryian Tan

              For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

              Bryian Tan

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              Duncan Edwards Jones
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              If you can't find them, you have to make them... :-) (or look somewhere other than jobs websites - for example any local meetup groups or indeed GitHub?)

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              • B Bryian Tan

                For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

                Bryian Tan

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                Keviniano Gayo
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                You can find them remotely. I for one :-)

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                • D dan sh

                  Bryian Tan wrote:

                  where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out?

                  Q & A

                  "It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]

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                  Maybe its time to add "Job Boards" here.

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                  • B Bryian Tan

                    For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

                    Bryian Tan

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                    I could be one - I'm no junior developer but .NET is almost unexplored land for me, as I only made a C# plugin for VisualStudio (it shows areas of memory as 8 or 16 bit grayscale images, gamma-contrast correction, zoom, painting of arrays indicating colums-rows or rows-column, saving the buffer) and a C++/CLI interface to load a C++ DLL in a C# project (the DLL is loadable both from native and from .NET).

                    * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                    • B Bryian Tan

                      For the past weekend, I had been asking around people in my circle, if they know any junior .net developer looking for job. Surprisingly, the answer is NO. That make me realize that I don't have any connection with junior developers community :sigh: . So where are all the junior .net developers/ fresh graduated student hanging out? Where to find them? :omg: :omg: :omg:

                      Bryian Tan

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                      Johnny J
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                      Bryian Tan wrote:

                      Where to find them?

                      McDonalds! You want fries with that? ;)

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                      • J Johnny J

                        Bryian Tan wrote:

                        Where to find them?

                        McDonalds! You want fries with that? ;)

                        Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                        I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                        Me, all the time

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                        Bryian Tan
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                        Lol. And drinks too

                        Bryian Tan

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                        • J Jon McKee

                          I suppose I technically qualify as one and I dunno. Sitting around staring at job boards that all want Senior .NET Developers probably wondering where all the employers looking for Junior or even Mid-level devs are. As someone currently looking that's been my experience anyways :doh:

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                          Bryian Tan
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                          I agreed sometime the job description is too ambitious for a junior position. And that turn them away. For my case, I might not looking at the right place.

                          Bryian Tan

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                          • G Garth J Lancaster

                            doesn't it depend in what you're looking for Bryian ? 'junior .net developer' could mean 'reads c# and makes coffee' for example - I see a lot of jobs advertised for 'full stack' developers - I don't have ASP.Net experience so that rules me out - 'kids' today seem more interested in JavaScript frameworks - maybe they get a quicker 'hit' ie see something happening by using them - I've never been one for quick gratification

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                            Bryian Tan
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                            Lol, make coffee. That would be nice too:) yes, kids are smart nowadays and sometimes is tough to find the good one.

                            Bryian Tan

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                            • K Keviniano Gayo

                              Maybe its time to add "Job Boards" here.

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                              Bryian Tan
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                              Hmm. I thought we have one :)

                              Bryian Tan

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                              • G Garth J Lancaster

                                sorry, not in the mood - had a rough time in an interview before Xmas (was set up for a fall, and fell), still smarting from things - hence Im pushing a 'PC' line, (boring though that is)

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                                Bryian Tan
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                                Sorry to hear that. Hope thing get better the next time. Sometime I felt like interview is another opportunity to discover new thing that you didn't know, learn how people ask question. If you don't get the job that fine, at least you get some idea what the employers are looking for. Go back do some study/ homework, be prepared and try another time.

                                Bryian Tan

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                                • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                                  If you can't find them, you have to make them... :-) (or look somewhere other than jobs websites - for example any local meetup groups or indeed GitHub?)

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                                  Bryian Tan
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                                  Yeah, have to look outside the circle

                                  Bryian Tan

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                                    Businesses don't have time, finance or resources to train .net developers any more as they're all curtting costs, and Universities seem to teach Java, PHP and Javascript as it's much cheaper to set up labs with Linux than Windows [although with .net core that might change, though I wouldn't bank on it].

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                                    Bryian Tan
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                                    I agreed. If an employer willing to give you opportunity to learn in their environment , that awesome. Else you have to setup lab and study and still need to get a job to gain real world experience :)

                                    Bryian Tan

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                                    • D den2k88

                                      I could be one - I'm no junior developer but .NET is almost unexplored land for me, as I only made a C# plugin for VisualStudio (it shows areas of memory as 8 or 16 bit grayscale images, gamma-contrast correction, zoom, painting of arrays indicating colums-rows or rows-column, saving the buffer) and a C++/CLI interface to load a C++ DLL in a C# project (the DLL is loadable both from native and from .NET).

                                      * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                                      Bryian Tan
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                                      That what I felt like sometime, never know enough to hang out/ compete with other smart professional out there

                                      Bryian Tan

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                                      • N Nelek

                                        You can ask in the QA, if you want more junior you will have to go to a kindergarten ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Edit: Note to self, I should read the full thread before answering... that would avoid repeating jokes :doh: :doh: :doh:

                                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                        Bryian Tan
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                                        :)

                                        Bryian Tan

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                                        • J Jon McKee

                                          :thumbsup: The important thing college doesn't teach you - how to learn for yourself.

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                                          Bryian Tan
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                                          Totally agreed with you.

                                          Bryian Tan

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