WordPress or not to WordPress

Jeremy Falcon

Anyone know of a better CMS out there right now besides good ol' WP? I've used Orchard before, and I'm not against using it again. However, I need to recommend one soon, and I'm curious to know if there's something out there cool. Keep in mind, the users I'd be recommending this too are familiar with WP already (from a user standpoint), so I'm inclined to keep with that. But, inquiring minds want to know what's what, and all...

Jeremy Falcon

Bryian Tan

BlogEngine.NET mojoPortal

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raddevus

BlogEngine.net !!! Definitely. I've attempted to use multiple PHP-based ones (Drupal, WP, Joomla) and they are all annoying and unsecure IMO. I've incorporated BlogEngine.net in my main site ( C'YaPass: Forget All Your Passwords [^] if you want to check it out) BlogEngine.NET isn't perfect but it's much nicer than the others. It also incorporates flexible design so it looks quite good on mobile devices. Good luck.

Jeremy Falcon

Thanks man. I'll check them out.

Jeremy Falcon

Mark_Wallace

WP sites are under continuous attack, 24/7. Even my own sites (I don't use WP) complain that they're sick of sending out 404s to requests for WP admin pages.

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minirobbo

Umbraco. It's probably the best (.net) cms in the world! 400,000+ active installs around the world. MS even used for the asp.net site.

still in the office... perhaps i should go home

Brady Kelly

WordPress is elephanting great, even as a CMS; it's long evolved from just a blog engine. That is, elephanting great until you need to deal with its elephanting code. So I would very highly recommend it if you can get the required customizing right using plugins and 3rd party API's. Then I would recommend it on a level down if you can customize it by writing you own plugins; PHP isn't bad when you do it properly. And last of all, I may just still recommend it if you need to modify its own code, because PHP is always bad when it's someone else's, but still easy enough for such a multitude of hacks to use it. laugh:

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Johnny J

I've worked with Umbraco for some years, and I don't share your sentiment. I HATE it! X| Umbraco is the most hard worked and user-UNfriendly CMS I've ever worked with. :mad: ONLY advatage is that it's .Net... :~

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Mike Marynowski

I use BlogEngine on my blog but it is only really suitable for very simple blogs. It lacks even the most basic of plugins, so you'll quickly end up customizing "manually" with code instead of using ready to go plugins. For example, I had to write JavaScript to track external links and downloads in Google analytics and I don't know if or when I'll get around to integrating a proper newsletter system. WP is fat and slow and messy but you can basically drag and drop plugins that do just about everything you could ever want. So, depends what your needs are. I hate WP personally but it is often the best choice for customers. We're developing a new option that I think .NET devs will really appreciate though :)

Roland Walker

I use WP and find it's OK. Once a user is accustomed to how to add content they can make changes easily. Two basic security plugins that I use are IQ Block Country and All In One WP Security, there are a few good Youtube videos that can walk someone through the best practical settings. I've also used Barracuda Drive (now FuguHub) and it's small and fast but requires more backend maintenance. It even fits on mini/micro computers like a Raspberry Pi.

Clinton Gallagher

concrete5 is emerging as a viable choice for PHP developers. A local development firm swears by it not at it but that's my opinion as an outsider just starting to learn and use WordPress despite its many problems.

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KC CahabaGBA

Thanks for this! I've been kinda looking for something for my personal site to kick it up and reorganize it after it was hazord... this looks like a good starting point.

Bryian Tan

lol, same here, very annoying. Did you use Wordfence to monitor the traffic?

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tc8596

I've used MODX several times for basic marketing sites. Very easy to use and it doesn't get in the way of your HTML and design. It's been around for quite a while and I've never had a problem with it.

tc8596

I've used MODX several times for basic marketing sites. Very easy to use and it doesn't get in the way of your HTML and design. It's been around for quite a while and I've never had a problem with it.

DerekT P

NOT. I've found it to be unintuitive, virtually impossible to get it to do even basic stuff, there are a gazillion add-ons so trying to find the one that actually does what it says it does is a nightmare, and once you've actually got the functionality you want, the performance is abysmal - both at the server and on the client. There are plug-in conflicts to worry about (at the client) and then, if you're not careful, it goes and updates itself without asking! I do run one site in WP, which I did primarily so I could get some practical hands-on experience in the real world. As a result it virtually never changes, apart from the odd blog post. Which is understandable really; it's fine as a simple blogging engine, but there are precious few sites that really are just simple blogs any more, and increasingly people try and use it for things for which it's totally unsuited. It's not a CMS, it's a (fairly basic) blogging tool with a really clunky and limited editor.

Jeremy Falcon

I'm not interested in dissing WP. I've done development for it for years. I'm more interested to see if there's any new cool stuff out there I don't know about.

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Lost User

Better? WP is more "popular"; so it is a "safer" recommendation ... unless you want to become "the IT guy".

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Charles Programmer

I've used Joomla and found it pretty easy, lots of pre-made stuff for it, although it has been several years (and versions,) since I looked at it.

Mark_Wallace

I tend to not announce what security stuff I use in open forums -- but I don't use wordpress, so wordfence is kinda not useful.

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