Are you a coffee snob?
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While the snobs would be able to tell the difference, it would be entertaining to hear them complain, or enlightening if they didn't!
Hogan
That would be a good case study. :-D
Bryian Tan
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
Have you come across any coffee in the UK that's anything close to good (like in France)?
In central London there is Waterstones, an enormous bookshop. It has both a cafè and a restaurant... the cafè makes a passable espresso (but I only took it twice in several years). In the UK I usually binge on Starbucks given that it's an "exotic" experience for people who don't have that shop chain - in fact they're usually chock full of italians :D I was to try "Cafè Nero" but the pastries weren't interesting so I got out and sought a Starbucks. Cafè Costa is good but I only took a cappuccino once and that's very hard to elephant up - it takes an unusual amount of talent to make a bad cappuccino.
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Thanks for the info.. to be honest I haven't found any UK outlet that comes close to any run-of-the-mill cafe in France. I've recently bought a Tassimo machine which has one or two drinkable capsules (yes, I know!) but it's still not what I'm looking for. I might try another brand, but then it's on to grinding and mixing beans which seems a whole load of hassle I'd hoped to avoid.. :(
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
Bottom line - if you wish to skip the read: Coffee Snob works both ways: making Starbucks the whipping boy is as snobby as worshiping the bag it comes in.
Bashing Starbucks is often PC for the right-wing - possibly because they see Starbucks as a left-wing enclave. Then main difference, in the store, is that Starbucks puts much more coffee in their coffee. I'm no coffee gourmet but there is a difference in coffees. I prefer "Latin roast" to standard "American roast", the former is a darker roast. Other people don't like the acidity that increases with the darker roasting. A lot of time it's just what they're used to, or getting on the band-wagon with those around them. They actually do Folgers where I am, now. I donated a bag of Cafe Caribe, which actually cost less, and everyone loved it. Still, it's back to Foglers because they bought a lot. Starbucks (or any other coffee), if brewed out-of-the-store, will be better or worse more on your technique then the coffee, itself. I was quite OK with the Folgers when they finally put in enough coffee so it didn't taste watery. None-the-less, there are serious taste differences in coffee. For a Starbucks type, for example, I like the "Sumatra" type - but there are others types because other people like others better. Some I don't like at all. As I said - I am no coffee - and am glad of it, so I can be content with anything that's strong enough (and not made from rancid beans). If the coffee's a bit unsavory - there are extremes in all things, I can drop some Star Anise into the pot and it will soon be rich and mellow. The Star Anise is reusable, too, for quite a few pots of coffee (works better after the first). So - really - my coffee taste is rich and mellow. I don't need to put a brand name on that to love it or hate it. That would be a real waste.
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Thanks for the info.. to be honest I haven't found any UK outlet that comes close to any run-of-the-mill cafe in France. I've recently bought a Tassimo machine which has one or two drinkable capsules (yes, I know!) but it's still not what I'm looking for. I might try another brand, but then it's on to grinding and mixing beans which seems a whole load of hassle I'd hoped to avoid.. :(
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
If you can find Lavazza coffee (I saw it sold in several markets, but outside of central London) and a decent moka you can rest assured of a good coffee. It's a bit costly Lavazza in the UK (2.75 3.85£/250gr pack, almost double what we pay here) but in line with the prices of food with respect to ours. I use capsules too (Nespresso), for when I forgot or couldn't prepare the moka coffee. I shave the wake-car time pretty badly so I don't have more than a couple of minutes to spare. I like only a few of them but in the morning it's survival - real survival, I wouldn't dream of driving while not a 100% efficiency.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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If you can find Lavazza coffee (I saw it sold in several markets, but outside of central London) and a decent moka you can rest assured of a good coffee. It's a bit costly Lavazza in the UK (2.75 3.85£/250gr pack, almost double what we pay here) but in line with the prices of food with respect to ours. I use capsules too (Nespresso), for when I forgot or couldn't prepare the moka coffee. I shave the wake-car time pretty badly so I don't have more than a couple of minutes to spare. I like only a few of them but in the morning it's survival - real survival, I wouldn't dream of driving while not a 100% efficiency.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
I bought a bean to cup machine and buy the Lavazza beans from Costco. Coffee is fantastic.
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
I go to the shop and ask for my usual, "a black coffee please." Can't be bothered figuring out what stupid name each different shop uses, and putting other stuff in a perfectly good drink is stupid, would you add milk to your beer? starbucks: is not coffee, even the airlines do better. And those new machines that need special "pods" - boy did those companies see how easy it is to get [more] money from the stupid.
Sin tack the any key okay
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
Yes to having a preference of Coffee type, does that make me a Snob? I drink Tea at work now as the coffee is not complimentary, but Hot Water is! If it is free then really there should be no complaints!! i generally like a dark roast coffee and the smokeyness makes them all much of a muchness!!!
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I bought a bean to cup machine and buy the Lavazza beans from Costco. Coffee is fantastic.
I know. I'm hardly a fidelized person when it comes to food but having tried most of the range of (affordable) coffees now I stick with Lavazza unless forced otherwise. Besides, it's so widely sold in Italy taht it's extremely easy to find it discounted somewhere. Last time I bought 5kg of it just to not having to worry for a while.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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I go to the shop and ask for my usual, "a black coffee please." Can't be bothered figuring out what stupid name each different shop uses, and putting other stuff in a perfectly good drink is stupid, would you add milk to your beer? starbucks: is not coffee, even the airlines do better. And those new machines that need special "pods" - boy did those companies see how easy it is to get [more] money from the stupid.
Sin tack the any key okay
Lopatir wrote:
"a black coffee please."
Same here. I drink it like my Dad...no muss, no fuss, just straight black coffee. I'm not picky, but will splurge every now and then on Kona. I avoid Starbucks as I always seem to get behind someone who has to use no less than a half-dozen words to order...tall non-fat latte with extra whip/no drizzle and a shot of hazelnut. :wtf:
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
I haven't had a coffee in over a decade. Sometimes I suspect that I'm the only developer on the planet who doesn't like the stuff.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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I were a President, I would twatter: Starbucks So-Called "Coffee" :suss:
... such stuff as dreams are made on
But starbucks is yuge!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I know. I'm hardly a fidelized person when it comes to food but having tried most of the range of (affordable) coffees now I stick with Lavazza unless forced otherwise. Besides, it's so widely sold in Italy taht it's extremely easy to find it discounted somewhere. Last time I bought 5kg of it just to not having to worry for a while.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
Sounds good.. I'll give them a try, thanks! :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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I bought a bean to cup machine and buy the Lavazza beans from Costco. Coffee is fantastic.
Sounds like it might be the way to go.. what machine did you get? I'm looking for something reasonably compact.. :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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I haven't had a coffee in over a decade. Sometimes I suspect that I'm the only developer on the planet who doesn't like the stuff.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
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Sounds like it might be the way to go.. what machine did you get? I'm looking for something reasonably compact.. :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
Mine is a Krups one, I've been really impressed with it. They were selling them half price in Debenhams before Christmas but they seem to be back to full price at the moment. Worth keeping an eye out for them though when they go on offer.
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Mine is a Krups one, I've been really impressed with it. They were selling them half price in Debenhams before Christmas but they seem to be back to full price at the moment. Worth keeping an eye out for them though when they go on offer.
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
Well, in my mind, coffee is the devil's brew that should not be allowed in Mordor. If I want caffiene, give my a good English Breakfast tea that has gotten 'stoopid' by sitting over night, then microwaved before I would willingly drink (shudder!) coffee
An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. - Lazarus Long
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
Starbucks is swill.
Software Zen:
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
I was once on an airport in 'Murica (Houston) and found my first Starbucks ever. That was a few years ago when there weren't a lot of Starbucks in the Netherlands yet (I actually still wouldn't know where to find one, but I know we have them). I don't drink coffee, but we sat down and I ordered something with apple juice. I burnt my tongue so friggin hard that I'll never go to Starbucks again, ever. It wasn't even a particularly good beverage :sigh: It's not their fault that I burnt my tongue, but I did, and someone's going to pay for it (besides me) :) Anyway, to answer your question, I only drink coffee that does not taste like coffee. Usually something with hot chocolate. Does that make me a coffee snob?
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