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  • M megaadam

    I were a President, I would twatter: Starbucks So-Called "Coffee" :suss:

    ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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    Mark_Wallace
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    But starbucks is yuge!

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • D den2k88

      I know. I'm hardly a fidelized person when it comes to food but having tried most of the range of (affordable) coffees now I stick with Lavazza unless forced otherwise. Besides, it's so widely sold in Italy taht it's extremely easy to find it discounted somewhere. Last time I bought 5kg of it just to not having to worry for a while.

      * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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      Lost User
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      Sounds good.. I'll give them a try, thanks! :)

      Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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      • W Wastedtalent

        I bought a bean to cup machine and buy the Lavazza beans from Costco. Coffee is fantastic.

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        Lost User
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        Sounds like it might be the way to go.. what machine did you get? I'm looking for something reasonably compact.. :)

        Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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        • P PeejayAdams

          I haven't had a coffee in over a decade. Sometimes I suspect that I'm the only developer on the planet who doesn't like the stuff.

          Slogans aren't solutions.

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          snorkie
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          Just because I drink it doesn't mean I like it, free caffeine!

          Hogan

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          • S snorkie

            My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!

            Hogan

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Coffee is just a carrier for sugar.

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            • L Lost User

              Sounds like it might be the way to go.. what machine did you get? I'm looking for something reasonably compact.. :)

              Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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              Wastedtalent
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              Mine is a Krups one, I've been really impressed with it. They were selling them half price in Debenhams before Christmas but they seem to be back to full price at the moment. Worth keeping an eye out for them though when they go on offer.

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                Mine is a Krups one, I've been really impressed with it. They were selling them half price in Debenhams before Christmas but they seem to be back to full price at the moment. Worth keeping an eye out for them though when they go on offer.

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                Lost User
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                Thanks, I'll keep a lookout for them :)

                Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                • S snorkie

                  My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!

                  Hogan

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                  stoneyowl2
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                  Well, in my mind, coffee is the devil's brew that should not be allowed in Mordor. If I want caffiene, give my a good English Breakfast tea that has gotten 'stoopid' by sitting over night, then microwaved before I would willingly drink (shudder!) coffee

                  An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. - Lazarus Long

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                  • S snorkie

                    My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!

                    Hogan

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    Starbucks is swill.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • S snorkie

                      My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!

                      Hogan

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      I was once on an airport in 'Murica (Houston) and found my first Starbucks ever. That was a few years ago when there weren't a lot of Starbucks in the Netherlands yet (I actually still wouldn't know where to find one, but I know we have them). I don't drink coffee, but we sat down and I ordered something with apple juice. I burnt my tongue so friggin hard that I'll never go to Starbucks again, ever. It wasn't even a particularly good beverage :sigh: It's not their fault that I burnt my tongue, but I did, and someone's going to pay for it (besides me) :) Anyway, to answer your question, I only drink coffee that does not taste like coffee. Usually something with hot chocolate. Does that make me a coffee snob?

                      Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!

                        Hogan

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        snorkie wrote:

                        My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks

                        ...and you're asking if we're coffee snobs. Doesn't that mean the conversation should be about, you know, coffee? I've given up trying to classify that burned brown stuff they offload.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          As I am wont to say, going to Starbucks for coffee is akin to going to prison for sex. You'll get what you ask for but not what you want!

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          If I was drinking a Starbucks I would have just sprayed it all over the screen.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          • W W Balboos GHB

                            Bottom line - if you wish to skip the read: Coffee Snob works both ways: making Starbucks the whipping boy is as snobby as worshiping the bag it comes in.



                            Bashing Starbucks is often PC for the right-wing - possibly because they see Starbucks as a left-wing enclave. Then main difference, in the store, is that Starbucks puts much more coffee in their coffee. I'm no coffee gourmet but there is a difference in coffees. I prefer "Latin roast" to standard "American roast", the former is a darker roast. Other people don't like the acidity that increases with the darker roasting. A lot of time it's just what they're used to, or getting on the band-wagon with those around them. They actually do Folgers where I am, now. I donated a bag of Cafe Caribe, which actually cost less, and everyone loved it. Still, it's back to Foglers because they bought a lot. Starbucks (or any other coffee), if brewed out-of-the-store, will be better or worse more on your technique then the coffee, itself. I was quite OK with the Folgers when they finally put in enough coffee so it didn't taste watery. None-the-less, there are serious taste differences in coffee. For a Starbucks type, for example, I like the "Sumatra" type - but there are others types because other people like others better. Some I don't like at all. As I said - I am no coffee - and am glad of it, so I can be content with anything that's strong enough (and not made from rancid beans). If the coffee's a bit unsavory - there are extremes in all things, I can drop some Star Anise into the pot and it will soon be rich and mellow. The Star Anise is reusable, too, for quite a few pots of coffee (works better after the first). So - really - my coffee taste is rich and mellow. I don't need to put a brand name on that to love it or hate it. That would be a real waste.

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            As a Melbournean it's my destiny, or possibly doom, to be a coffee snob. I'm also not right-wing. I'm common-sense-wing. Coffee goes wrong (in my view) two ways 1. They burn or otherwise do horrible things to the beans. 2. They burn or otherwise do horrible things to the milk. Grinding the beans incorrectly, not cleaning the espresso machine, scorching the beans, pulling too long, not having enough pressure will make the shot 'orrible. Then the bizarre need in North America to steam the milk to around the melting point of tin. Have they not heard of protein denaturing[^]?? Crikey. Starbucks nails it on both counts: they love their beans black as the Ace of Spades[^] and their milk ready and able to inflict 3rd degree burns. Tone it down a bit on both fronts and they have a chance.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                              snorkie wrote:

                              My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks

                              ...and you're asking if we're coffee snobs. Doesn't that mean the conversation should be about, you know, coffee? I've given up trying to classify that burned brown stuff they offload.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              snorkie
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                              I don't care, I drink whatever is available (and free). If they start charging for it, I'll go back to water!

                              Hogan

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                I was once on an airport in 'Murica (Houston) and found my first Starbucks ever. That was a few years ago when there weren't a lot of Starbucks in the Netherlands yet (I actually still wouldn't know where to find one, but I know we have them). I don't drink coffee, but we sat down and I ordered something with apple juice. I burnt my tongue so friggin hard that I'll never go to Starbucks again, ever. It wasn't even a particularly good beverage :sigh: It's not their fault that I burnt my tongue, but I did, and someone's going to pay for it (besides me) :) Anyway, to answer your question, I only drink coffee that does not taste like coffee. Usually something with hot chocolate. Does that make me a coffee snob?

                                Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                snorkie
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                                Nope, that makes you smart!

                                Hogan

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  As a Melbournean it's my destiny, or possibly doom, to be a coffee snob. I'm also not right-wing. I'm common-sense-wing. Coffee goes wrong (in my view) two ways 1. They burn or otherwise do horrible things to the beans. 2. They burn or otherwise do horrible things to the milk. Grinding the beans incorrectly, not cleaning the espresso machine, scorching the beans, pulling too long, not having enough pressure will make the shot 'orrible. Then the bizarre need in North America to steam the milk to around the melting point of tin. Have they not heard of protein denaturing[^]?? Crikey. Starbucks nails it on both counts: they love their beans black as the Ace of Spades[^] and their milk ready and able to inflict 3rd degree burns. Tone it down a bit on both fronts and they have a chance.

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  You do know their are non-Espresso options both in and out of StarBucks? And I never met a latte . . . that I liked. Protein denaturing . . . unless you always eat your eggs raw, that shouldn't bother you. That, however, all distances itself from coffee - which, if basically just flavored milk is just that - flavored milk. REAL PROGRAMMERS DON'T DRINK LATTE ! Actually, the only practical use for any steamed milk beverage is to spill on someone else's keyboard. My favorite coffee cooker is vacuum drip - followed by mud (very finely ground coffee just dumped in the mug, then add boiling water). Only myself to blame for good or bad -

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    If I was drinking a Starbucks I would have just sprayed it all over the screen.

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    Nagy Vilmos
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                                    Just doing my job.

                                    veni bibi saltavi

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                                    • S snorkie

                                      My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!

                                      Hogan

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                                      Le centriste
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                                      I drink black coffee, and I can tell you there are differences between coffee brands.

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                                      • L Le centriste

                                        I drink black coffee, and I can tell you there are differences between coffee brands.

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                                        snorkie
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                                        I agree there are differences. But I find the differences about the same as those between Coke and Pepsi. Basically the same thing.

                                        Hogan

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          As a Melbournean it's my destiny, or possibly doom, to be a coffee snob. I'm also not right-wing. I'm common-sense-wing. Coffee goes wrong (in my view) two ways 1. They burn or otherwise do horrible things to the beans. 2. They burn or otherwise do horrible things to the milk. Grinding the beans incorrectly, not cleaning the espresso machine, scorching the beans, pulling too long, not having enough pressure will make the shot 'orrible. Then the bizarre need in North America to steam the milk to around the melting point of tin. Have they not heard of protein denaturing[^]?? Crikey. Starbucks nails it on both counts: they love their beans black as the Ace of Spades[^] and their milk ready and able to inflict 3rd degree burns. Tone it down a bit on both fronts and they have a chance.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          LMAO! Have you tried drinking coffee in Japan? I have never had a good brew other than from out of a tin (yes there are hot coffee vending machines in Japan). Brewed coffee is very expensive and tastes like a squeezed sweat laden t-shirt!

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