Europe is a fool
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The problem with your suggestions is that they are contrary to the most basic principles of Western Civilization. The biggest problem with Europe is multiculturalism, i.e. the idea that all cultures are equal. They obviously are not. If someone brings his custom of child marriage from the Third World to the UK, it should not be excused on the grounds of "cultural diversity"; he and his accessories (the girl's parents) should be prosecuted for statutory rape. If a girl's family think that "honour killings" are acceptable, perhaps a life sentence bunged up with their own chamber pots will teach them differently. And if some murderous bastards even think of planning terrorist actions, the laws designed to handle the IRA are still on the books; lock them up until they're too feeble to even lift a knife, to say nothing of stabbing someone with it!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
> The biggest problem with Europe is multiculturalism Not so. Black caribean culture blended perfectly well with white culture in the 70s and gave rise to a whole new form of music and youth movement, two tone, ska, etc. Indian culture is highly compatible with EUropean culture and has been for centuries. THe problem is islam. Just that. It is them. They dont want to integrate. They want to dominate, to take over, to subjugate. That isnt going to happen, believe me.
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You're right; I must have left out the 'sarcasm'/'irony' indicator on this. My apologies. Whether anyone likes it or not, a person born in the UK is a natural-born citizen of the country. While there may be a legal case for revoking the nationality and deportation of a naturalized terrorist, I don't see how you could do this for native-born ones.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
> Whether anyone likes it or not, a person born in the UK is a natural-born citizen of the country That is not the case in all countries you know, and can be changed easily. Here you go: Rotherham sex abusers could be deported and have UK citizenship taken away under new law | UK | News | Express.co.uk[^] See? It is simple.
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>Are you also going to ban Kosher Yes. The rules are the rules, period. >Are you going to ban the wearing of long-sleeve dresses? Scarves? sigh. the difference is pretty obvious you know. > Are you going to strip them of their citizenship based on their religion? Yes. Didnt I make it obvious enough that that was my intent? > Are you going to ban them all? The rules are the rules. Period.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
>Are you also going to ban Kosher Yes. The rules are the rules, period.
[Halal and kosher slaughter - GOV.UK](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/halal-and-kosher-slaughter) According to this, neither Halal nor Kosher slaughtering are illegal in the UK, assuming they are performed under the listed restrictions. There are a few countries that prohibit Halal and/or Kosher slaughtering, but it is still permitted in most of the Western world. [Legal aspects of ritual slaughter - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal\_aspects\_of\_ritual\_slaughter#European\_Union) As for your other proposed bans, they would be struck down by the first court to hear the case. You cannot strip a native-born person of his citizenship without cause (and being a Moslem doesn't count for this purpose), nor could you justify a ban on the Bible, some of Shakespeare's plays, etc. etc.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
>Are you also going to ban Kosher Yes. The rules are the rules, period.
[Halal and kosher slaughter - GOV.UK](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/halal-and-kosher-slaughter) According to this, neither Halal nor Kosher slaughtering are illegal in the UK, assuming they are performed under the listed restrictions. There are a few countries that prohibit Halal and/or Kosher slaughtering, but it is still permitted in most of the Western world. [Legal aspects of ritual slaughter - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal\_aspects\_of\_ritual\_slaughter#European\_Union) As for your other proposed bans, they would be struck down by the first court to hear the case. You cannot strip a native-born person of his citizenship without cause (and being a Moslem doesn't count for this purpose), nor could you justify a ban on the Bible, some of Shakespeare's plays, etc. etc.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Yes, we know allowances are made, but if you tried to slaughter animals by this method under any other name you would be in court.
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> are you banning the practice of religiously-acceptable animal slaughter because Because it is against UK law. If a religion practiced paedophilia would you permit it? Of course not. The law is the law. Period. > So, will ski masks be illegal, Dont be silly. The repression of women for religious reasons is what I am talking about, not head coverings persee, and it takes many forms, from head and body coverings to forbidding them to drive, and have freedom of choice.
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If a religion practiced paedophilia would you permit it
Sorry, but this is really a pure Argument. I don't know any Religion or civilized group which accept paedophilia. So this Argument is really _very_ hypothetical.
> I don't know any Religion or civilized group which accept paedophilia New Guinea: Google[^] Afghanistan: Bacha bazi - Wikipedia[^] Of course you can question whether these are civilised, or religious, but it exists. But of course I chose an extreme and emotive subject to highlight an issue: Does 'religion' give you free reign to break the laws of society?
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> I don't know any Religion or civilized group which accept paedophilia New Guinea: Google[^] Afghanistan: Bacha bazi - Wikipedia[^] Of course you can question whether these are civilised, or religious, but it exists. But of course I chose an extreme and emotive subject to highlight an issue: Does 'religion' give you free reign to break the laws of society?
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Pretty nasty stuff I am afraid.
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> Whether anyone likes it or not, a person born in the UK is a natural-born citizen of the country That is not the case in all countries you know, and can be changed easily. Here you go: Rotherham sex abusers could be deported and have UK citizenship taken away under new law | UK | News | Express.co.uk[^] See? It is simple.
Read the article, not just the headline. The article mentions criminals with dual nationality, which typically means that they are immigrants, i.e. naturalised citizens. A naturalised citizen's rights differ from those of a natural-born citizen, in that a naturalised citizen may lose his/her citizenship under certain circumstances. Note that a naturalised citizen may (in some countries) lose their citizenship for perfectly innocent reasons, e.g. they lived abroad for more than a specified time.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Pretty nasty stuff I am afraid.
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Read the article, not just the headline. The article mentions criminals with dual nationality, which typically means that they are immigrants, i.e. naturalised citizens. A naturalised citizen's rights differ from those of a natural-born citizen, in that a naturalised citizen may lose his/her citizenship under certain circumstances. Note that a naturalised citizen may (in some countries) lose their citizenship for perfectly innocent reasons, e.g. they lived abroad for more than a specified time.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Law is a funny thing, it is created to suit the situation....
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> I don't know any Religion or civilized group which accept paedophilia New Guinea: Google[^] Afghanistan: Bacha bazi - Wikipedia[^] Of course you can question whether these are civilised, or religious, but it exists. But of course I chose an extreme and emotive subject to highlight an issue: Does 'religion' give you free reign to break the laws of society?
Maybe I'm naive, but no, non of the civilized groups or religions do tolerate things like paedophilia. It is more that "an non restricted www" does support this. Even I think technically it should an easy thing to stop it! And yes, I'm Aware the Problem is not new, but with WWW it becomes another Dimension, which nobody like to stop. Why?
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Maybe I'm naive, but no, non of the civilized groups or religions do tolerate things like paedophilia. It is more that "an non restricted www" does support this. Even I think technically it should an easy thing to stop it! And yes, I'm Aware the Problem is not new, but with WWW it becomes another Dimension, which nobody like to stop. Why?
Well, ancient Rome and Greece did support it, and they were so civilised we depend on them for todays civilisation. But clearly if you define civilised as not supporting paedophilia then of course you can argue that no civilised society does. However to an Afghani he is civilised and you are a pagan.
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Well, ancient Rome and Greece did support it, and they were so civilised we depend on them for todays civilisation. But clearly if you define civilised as not supporting paedophilia then of course you can argue that no civilised society does. However to an Afghani he is civilised and you are a pagan.
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The problem with your suggestions is that they are contrary to the most basic principles of Western Civilization. The biggest problem with Europe is multiculturalism, i.e. the idea that all cultures are equal. They obviously are not. If someone brings his custom of child marriage from the Third World to the UK, it should not be excused on the grounds of "cultural diversity"; he and his accessories (the girl's parents) should be prosecuted for statutory rape. If a girl's family think that "honour killings" are acceptable, perhaps a life sentence bunged up with their own chamber pots will teach them differently. And if some murderous bastards even think of planning terrorist actions, the laws designed to handle the IRA are still on the books; lock them up until they're too feeble to even lift a knife, to say nothing of stabbing someone with it!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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God be with the victims and their families. Hope you guys learn that you have really big fucking problems right now with no solutions in site, and your governments are to blame.
Slacker007 wrote:
your governments are to blame
They certainly are. For joining the USA in their destabilization of the 'Middle East'. (Prior to that, for the League of Nations not giving control of the Ottoman Arab states to the Arabs, post WW1)
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God be with the victims and their families. Hope you guys learn that you have really big fucking problems right now with no solutions in site, and your governments are to blame.
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God be with the victims and their families. Hope you guys learn that you have really big fucking problems right now with no solutions in site, and your governments are to blame.
Hope you guys learn that you have really big f***ing problems right now with no solutions in site, and your governments are to blame. Should I repeat this for Asia, Africa and the friggin North Pole?
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Hope you guys learn that you have really big f***ing problems right now with no solutions in site, and your governments are to blame. Should I repeat this for Asia, Africa and the friggin North Pole?
Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
What did Santa Clause do? :OMG:
The bastard hasn't bought me a present for nearly 40 years.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
