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  • T Thanks7872

    Melbourne siege a 'terrorist incident' - BBC News[^] Paris's Notre-Dame: Attacker shot outside cathedral - BBC News[^] Iran attacks: Twin assaults on parliament and shrine rock Tehran - CNN.com[^] 3 horrific news in single day. Such attacks are increasing day by day. I don't know what the problem is. Every time attack takes place,there is a common statement from authorities : suspect was known e.g. London attack: UK was warned about third attacker - BBC News[^]. Even 2nd attacker was also the subject of investigation in 2015. Local resident also complained to police regarding his suspicious acts. We are at our own risk? Looking at the current situation,it seems,yes.

    Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning

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    As far as the Iranian attack is concerned, it appears that the beast (terror) has turned on its master. :) :-D :laugh: As far as the attacks in Europe are concerned, all I can ask is "how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?"

    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      Melbourne siege a 'terrorist incident' - BBC News[^] Paris's Notre-Dame: Attacker shot outside cathedral - BBC News[^] Iran attacks: Twin assaults on parliament and shrine rock Tehran - CNN.com[^] 3 horrific news in single day. Such attacks are increasing day by day. I don't know what the problem is. Every time attack takes place,there is a common statement from authorities : suspect was known e.g. London attack: UK was warned about third attacker - BBC News[^]. Even 2nd attacker was also the subject of investigation in 2015. Local resident also complained to police regarding his suspicious acts. We are at our own risk? Looking at the current situation,it seems,yes.

      Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning

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      Jorgen Andersson
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      Relax, we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work. Get out of your social media bubble and learn to filter the news.

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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      • D Daniel Pfeffer

        As far as the Iranian attack is concerned, it appears that the beast (terror) has turned on its master. :) :-D :laugh: As far as the attacks in Europe are concerned, all I can ask is "how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?"

        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        super
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        Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

        As far as the Iranian attack is concerned, it appears that the beast (terror) has turned on its master

        Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

        Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

        "how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?"

        all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

        cheers,

        Super

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          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

          As far as the Iranian attack is concerned, it appears that the beast (terror) has turned on its master

          Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

          "how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?"

          all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

          cheers,

          Super

          ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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          super wrote:

          Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

          From the U.S. State Department: [Iran Continues To Sponsor Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/270315.htm) [State Sponsors of Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)

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          all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

          And their parents were admitted to European countries under policies that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing. A bad immigration policy does not necessarily show its effects before the next election!

          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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            super wrote:

            Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

            From the U.S. State Department: [Iran Continues To Sponsor Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/270315.htm) [State Sponsors of Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)

            super wrote:

            all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

            And their parents were admitted to European countries under policies that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing. A bad immigration policy does not necessarily show its effects before the next election!

            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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            super
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            And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

            Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

            that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing.

            So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed? Most of the nations were built on people migrating.

            cheers,

            Super

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              And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

              Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

              that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing.

              So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed? Most of the nations were built on people migrating.

              cheers,

              Super

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              super wrote:

              So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed?

              Yes, if the culture being imported is strongly at odds with the natural culture. I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population, likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

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              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                super wrote:

                Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

                From the U.S. State Department: [Iran Continues To Sponsor Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/270315.htm) [State Sponsors of Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)

                super wrote:

                all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

                And their parents were admitted to European countries under policies that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing. A bad immigration policy does not necessarily show its effects before the next election!

                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                Thanks7872
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                Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                From the U.S. State Department

                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  As far as the Iranian attack is concerned, it appears that the beast (terror) has turned on its master. :) :-D :laugh: As far as the attacks in Europe are concerned, all I can ask is "how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?"

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  Le centriste
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                  Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                  how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?

                  Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

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                    Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                    how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?

                    Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

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                    Canada, IIRC, has a relatively restrictive immigration policy. It cannot be compared to the EU's immigration open-borders policy.

                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                    • D Daniel Pfeffer

                      Canada, IIRC, has a relatively restrictive immigration policy. It cannot be compared to the EU's immigration open-borders policy.

                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                      Yep, you are right. Since how long those open borders policy exist? Because most of the time the terrorists were natives.

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                      • L Le centriste

                        Yep, you are right. Since how long those open borders policy exist? Because most of the time the terrorists were natives.

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                        It has existed for decades.

                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          It has existed for decades.

                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          Le centriste
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                          When you say "open borders", do you mean "Schengen Agreement"?

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                            When you say "open borders", do you mean "Schengen Agreement"?

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                            No, I mean that getting long-term residency in most EU countries has been relatively easy. The children of these long-term residents (who were born in the EU) are, of course, EU citizens.

                            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                              And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

                              Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                              that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing.

                              So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed? Most of the nations were built on people migrating.

                              cheers,

                              Super

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                              kmoorevs
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                              super wrote:

                              And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

                              :thumbsup: 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis...yet that country is not on the travel ban? I don't get it. :confused:

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              • J Jorgen Andersson

                                Relax, we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work. Get out of your social media bubble and learn to filter the news.

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work.

                                Not if you live in one of the crazy zones. :^)

                                There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                • L Le centriste

                                  Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                  how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?

                                  Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

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                                  Le centriste wrote:

                                  Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

                                  Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population. Whilst it's easy to blame the recent attacks etc on "foreign policy", how do you explain the many other instances of genocide committed by Muslims throughout history? Are you also going to blame the rise in sexual assaults\rape of children by Muslims on foreign policy too? If canada's Muslim population is allowed to grow it will have all the same problems Europe is having now and we'll see how smug you are then.

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                                    super wrote:

                                    So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed?

                                    Yes, if the culture being imported is strongly at odds with the natural culture. I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population, likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

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                                    super
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                                    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                    I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population

                                    and court decides if he or she is a criminal which is fine.

                                    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                    likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

                                    How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?

                                    cheers,

                                    Super

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                                      F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                      I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population

                                      and court decides if he or she is a criminal which is fine.

                                      F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                      likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

                                      How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?

                                      cheers,

                                      Super

                                      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                      F ES Sitecore
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                                      super wrote:

                                      How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?

                                      Yes. It will involve broad strokes and doubtless some eggs will be broken but the omelette will be delicious.

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                                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                        we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work.

                                        Not if you live in one of the crazy zones. :^)

                                        There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                        Jorgen Andersson
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                                        If you live in one of the crazy zone it's still probably more dangerous to take the bus to work, but it might turn out to be a combo in this case.

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                        • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                          No, I mean that getting long-term residency in most EU countries has been relatively easy. The children of these long-term residents (who were born in the EU) are, of course, EU citizens.

                                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                          Nelek
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                                          X years living (not necessarily working) in the country // getting married with native // being born there although the parents still hold other nationality (and doesn't matter how long there)... and some more. Yes, it is pretty easy (sadly)

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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