What the h is going on
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Yep, you are right. Since how long those open borders policy exist? Because most of the time the terrorists were natives.
It has existed for decades.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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It has existed for decades.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
When you say "open borders", do you mean "Schengen Agreement"?
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When you say "open borders", do you mean "Schengen Agreement"?
No, I mean that getting long-term residency in most EU countries has been relatively easy. The children of these long-term residents (who were born in the EU) are, of course, EU citizens.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing.
So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed? Most of the nations were built on people migrating.
cheers,
Super
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super wrote:
And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.
:thumbsup: 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis...yet that country is not on the travel ban? I don't get it. :confused:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Relax, we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work. Get out of your social media bubble and learn to filter the news.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work.
Not if you live in one of the crazy zones. :^)
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?
Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.
Le centriste wrote:
Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.
Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population. Whilst it's easy to blame the recent attacks etc on "foreign policy", how do you explain the many other instances of genocide committed by Muslims throughout history? Are you also going to blame the rise in sexual assaults\rape of children by Muslims on foreign policy too? If canada's Muslim population is allowed to grow it will have all the same problems Europe is having now and we'll see how smug you are then.
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super wrote:
So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed?
Yes, if the culture being imported is strongly at odds with the natural culture. I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population, likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population
and court decides if he or she is a criminal which is fine.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.
How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?
cheers,
Super
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population
and court decides if he or she is a criminal which is fine.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.
How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
super wrote:
How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?
Yes. It will involve broad strokes and doubtless some eggs will be broken but the omelette will be delicious.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work.
Not if you live in one of the crazy zones. :^)
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
If you live in one of the crazy zone it's still probably more dangerous to take the bus to work, but it might turn out to be a combo in this case.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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No, I mean that getting long-term residency in most EU countries has been relatively easy. The children of these long-term residents (who were born in the EU) are, of course, EU citizens.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
X years living (not necessarily working) in the country // getting married with native // being born there although the parents still hold other nationality (and doesn't matter how long there)... and some more. Yes, it is pretty easy (sadly)
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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super wrote:
And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.
:thumbsup: 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis...yet that country is not on the travel ban? I don't get it. :confused:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?
Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.
Canada probably has a pretty good screening setup, as well as a giant wall called "The Ocean". Same with the US. Many of the immigrants / refugees got into Europe by walking over land from Muslim countries and many of them were "bad" guys. Hence basically no screening, no wall.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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super wrote:
Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?
From the U.S. State Department: [Iran Continues To Sponsor Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/270315.htm) [State Sponsors of Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)
super wrote:
all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess
And their parents were admitted to European countries under policies that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing. A bad immigration policy does not necessarily show its effects before the next election!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Ah, the US State Department - experts in State Sponsored Terrorism. Very modest of them to defer to Iran, Sudan,and Syria. As for a multicultural society, my experience of it in Britain has been very positive. Of course, the destabilisation of the 'Middle East' by the USA and its EU allies has radicalised Muslims. We should not be surprised, then, that when we bomb and kill innocent civilians, nutters retaliate by killing innocent civilians in our countries. At least they take themselves out as well, unlike the European Christian bombers we experienced in the UK some decades ago - plant the bomb and scarper.
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Le centriste wrote:
Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.
Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population. Whilst it's easy to blame the recent attacks etc on "foreign policy", how do you explain the many other instances of genocide committed by Muslims throughout history? Are you also going to blame the rise in sexual assaults\rape of children by Muslims on foreign policy too? If canada's Muslim population is allowed to grow it will have all the same problems Europe is having now and we'll see how smug you are then.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Muslims have a long history of violence
So do Christians. Most religions, also. I hate religions.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Muslims have a long history of violence
So do Christians. Most religions, also. I hate religions.
Le centriste wrote:
So do Christians humans. Most religions people, also. I hate religions humans.
FTFY. Religion is an excuse, not the reason or the cause. It's like a criminal blaming his poor childhood for his criminality.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Le centriste wrote:
Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.
Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population. Whilst it's easy to blame the recent attacks etc on "foreign policy", how do you explain the many other instances of genocide committed by Muslims throughout history? Are you also going to blame the rise in sexual assaults\rape of children by Muslims on foreign policy too? If canada's Muslim population is allowed to grow it will have all the same problems Europe is having now and we'll see how smug you are then.
I don't know where you are from the confusing mess that the UK is, but...
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population.
You've got to be fucking kidding me as you seem to be confusing the term "British" with "Muslims", or you have no knowledge whatsoever of the inglorious "heritage" of the erstwhile British empire. India, New Zealand, America, Australia, Canada, Papua, Fiji, Tasmania, Straits, many countries in Africa, etc. are some places that were infiltrated by the British to have the native population overthrown and enslaved. Remember that most countries in the world celebrate their independence from the British (not from Muslims). Let's not even get into the genocides. As to your ignorant clumping together of all Muslims under the same umbrella, if I didn't know any better, I would state that the most violent crimes in the world has been committed by White Anglo-Saxon Poeple (remember, Winston Churchill, Columbus, Adolf Hitler, The Pope, Joseph Stalin, Albert Einstein could be painted with the same brush - "White people").
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I don't know where you are from the confusing mess that the UK is, but...
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population.
You've got to be fucking kidding me as you seem to be confusing the term "British" with "Muslims", or you have no knowledge whatsoever of the inglorious "heritage" of the erstwhile British empire. India, New Zealand, America, Australia, Canada, Papua, Fiji, Tasmania, Straits, many countries in Africa, etc. are some places that were infiltrated by the British to have the native population overthrown and enslaved. Remember that most countries in the world celebrate their independence from the British (not from Muslims). Let's not even get into the genocides. As to your ignorant clumping together of all Muslims under the same umbrella, if I didn't know any better, I would state that the most violent crimes in the world has been committed by White Anglo-Saxon Poeple (remember, Winston Churchill, Columbus, Adolf Hitler, The Pope, Joseph Stalin, Albert Einstein could be painted with the same brush - "White people").
While it's true the British had a conquest period of a 200-300 years (really the British Empire was mostly defunct by the end of WW1), the Muslims (Islamists) have had continuous violent conquests going almost 1500 years. Even invading Spain and large parts of Europe during the Moorish (muslim) Invasion in 711, that conquest lasted more than 700 years until 1492. Palestine was actually mostly Christian from about 100 AD until 1095 AD until the Muslim Turks invaded Jerusalem in 1095 and massacred 3000 Christian pilgrims (mostly from Europe). This was one of the main causes of the Crusades which lasted off-and-on for about 200 years. However the Muslim "Crusades" have been ongoing for about 1500 years, spreading their violent ideology all over Africa and Asia.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Muslims have a long history of violence
So do Christians. Most religions, also. I hate religions.
Le centriste wrote:
So do Christians. Most religions, also.
Yes, but those religions have evolved and are no longer violent. People are indicating that these recent events are to do with recent wars etc, I'm just showing that that's nonsense, that Muslims have always been this way. Edit: BTW I even knew that is what your response would be. It seems you apologists have all downloaded the same script about "how to defend terrorists" as you all say the same nonsense and when challenged on it you never have a reply.
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Le centriste wrote:
So do Christians humans. Most religions people, also. I hate religions humans.
FTFY. Religion is an excuse, not the reason or the cause. It's like a criminal blaming his poor childhood for his criminality.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
When the religion is preaching hate, it is the reason and the cause.
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While it's true the British had a conquest period of a 200-300 years (really the British Empire was mostly defunct by the end of WW1), the Muslims (Islamists) have had continuous violent conquests going almost 1500 years. Even invading Spain and large parts of Europe during the Moorish (muslim) Invasion in 711, that conquest lasted more than 700 years until 1492. Palestine was actually mostly Christian from about 100 AD until 1095 AD until the Muslim Turks invaded Jerusalem in 1095 and massacred 3000 Christian pilgrims (mostly from Europe). This was one of the main causes of the Crusades which lasted off-and-on for about 200 years. However the Muslim "Crusades" have been ongoing for about 1500 years, spreading their violent ideology all over Africa and Asia.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
You've made an excellent point, and I fully agree with it. I just wanted to make it clear that the white population isn't particularly known in the history as peace-loving saints either that they could whine about Muslims and violence.