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  • D Daniel Pfeffer

    super wrote:

    Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

    From the U.S. State Department: [Iran Continues To Sponsor Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/270315.htm) [State Sponsors of Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)

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    all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

    And their parents were admitted to European countries under policies that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing. A bad immigration policy does not necessarily show its effects before the next election!

    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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    And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

    Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

    that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing.

    So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed? Most of the nations were built on people migrating.

    cheers,

    Super

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      And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

      Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

      that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing.

      So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed? Most of the nations were built on people migrating.

      cheers,

      Super

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      super wrote:

      So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed?

      Yes, if the culture being imported is strongly at odds with the natural culture. I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population, likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

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      • D Daniel Pfeffer

        super wrote:

        Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

        From the U.S. State Department: [Iran Continues To Sponsor Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/270315.htm) [State Sponsors of Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)

        super wrote:

        all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

        And their parents were admitted to European countries under policies that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing. A bad immigration policy does not necessarily show its effects before the next election!

        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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        Thanks7872
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        Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

        From the U.S. State Department

        :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

        Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning

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        • D Daniel Pfeffer

          As far as the Iranian attack is concerned, it appears that the beast (terror) has turned on its master. :) :-D :laugh: As far as the attacks in Europe are concerned, all I can ask is "how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?"

          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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          Le centriste
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          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

          how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?

          Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

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          • L Le centriste

            Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

            how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?

            Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            Canada, IIRC, has a relatively restrictive immigration policy. It cannot be compared to the EU's immigration open-borders policy.

            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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            • D Daniel Pfeffer

              Canada, IIRC, has a relatively restrictive immigration policy. It cannot be compared to the EU's immigration open-borders policy.

              If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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              Le centriste
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              Yep, you are right. Since how long those open borders policy exist? Because most of the time the terrorists were natives.

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              • L Le centriste

                Yep, you are right. Since how long those open borders policy exist? Because most of the time the terrorists were natives.

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                It has existed for decades.

                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  It has existed for decades.

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  Le centriste
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                  When you say "open borders", do you mean "Schengen Agreement"?

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                  • L Le centriste

                    When you say "open borders", do you mean "Schengen Agreement"?

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                    Daniel Pfeffer
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                    No, I mean that getting long-term residency in most EU countries has been relatively easy. The children of these long-term residents (who were born in the EU) are, of course, EU citizens.

                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                    • S super

                      And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

                      Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                      that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing.

                      So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed? Most of the nations were built on people migrating.

                      cheers,

                      Super

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                      super wrote:

                      And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

                      :thumbsup: 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis...yet that country is not on the travel ban? I don't get it. :confused:

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        Relax, we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work. Get out of your social media bubble and learn to filter the news.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                        we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work.

                        Not if you live in one of the crazy zones. :^)

                        There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        • L Le centriste

                          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                          how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?

                          Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

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                          F ES Sitecore
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                          Le centriste wrote:

                          Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

                          Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population. Whilst it's easy to blame the recent attacks etc on "foreign policy", how do you explain the many other instances of genocide committed by Muslims throughout history? Are you also going to blame the rise in sexual assaults\rape of children by Muslims on foreign policy too? If canada's Muslim population is allowed to grow it will have all the same problems Europe is having now and we'll see how smug you are then.

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                          • F F ES Sitecore

                            super wrote:

                            So the alternate is keep people separated and let culture not get mixed?

                            Yes, if the culture being imported is strongly at odds with the natural culture. I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population, likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

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                            F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                            I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population

                            and court decides if he or she is a criminal which is fine.

                            F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                            likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

                            How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?

                            cheers,

                            Super

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                              F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                              I have no qualms about keeping people of a criminal mindset in jail away from the non-criminal population

                              and court decides if he or she is a criminal which is fine.

                              F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                              likewise I have no qualms about keeping people with intolerant, hateful, medieval views in intolerant, hateful, medieval countries.

                              How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?

                              cheers,

                              Super

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                              F ES Sitecore
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                              super wrote:

                              How do you determine that? Just based on the person religion and Country?

                              Yes. It will involve broad strokes and doubtless some eggs will be broken but the omelette will be delicious.

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                we live in the most peaceful time ever. (google it) It's actually more dangerous for you to take the bus to work.

                                Not if you live in one of the crazy zones. :^)

                                There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                Jorgen Andersson
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                                If you live in one of the crazy zone it's still probably more dangerous to take the bus to work, but it might turn out to be a combo in this case.

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                  No, I mean that getting long-term residency in most EU countries has been relatively easy. The children of these long-term residents (who were born in the EU) are, of course, EU citizens.

                                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                  Nelek
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                                  X years living (not necessarily working) in the country // getting married with native // being born there although the parents still hold other nationality (and doesn't matter how long there)... and some more. Yes, it is pretty easy (sadly)

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  • K kmoorevs

                                    super wrote:

                                    And yet we ignore the other side of the axis and support and help Saudis and co..Why the selective partiality.

                                    :thumbsup: 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis...yet that country is not on the travel ban? I don't get it. :confused:

                                    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                    • L Le centriste

                                      Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                      how is that multi-cultural open borders policy working out for you?

                                      Working pretty well here. I have several colleagues from India, Middle East, Africa, Asia. We all go along very well. I don't say everything goes smoothly, there are problems sometimes, but nothing major. Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      Canada probably has a pretty good screening setup, as well as a giant wall called "The Ocean". Same with the US. Many of the immigrants / refugees got into Europe by walking over land from Muslim countries and many of them were "bad" guys. Hence basically no screening, no wall.

                                      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                        super wrote:

                                        Tell me , how is it or in the recent part Iran was master for terror. If I am correct it was always coming from Gulf region?

                                        From the U.S. State Department: [Iran Continues To Sponsor Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2017/04/270315.htm) [State Sponsors of Terrorism](https://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)

                                        super wrote:

                                        all the suspect are not from outside but inside home grown I guess

                                        And their parents were admitted to European countries under policies that considered Multiculturalism a Good Thing. A bad immigration policy does not necessarily show its effects before the next election!

                                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                        NoNotThatBob
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                                        Ah, the US State Department - experts in State Sponsored Terrorism. Very modest of them to defer to Iran, Sudan,and Syria. As for a multicultural society, my experience of it in Britain has been very positive. Of course, the destabilisation of the 'Middle East' by the USA and its EU allies has radicalised Muslims. We should not be surprised, then, that when we bomb and kill innocent civilians, nutters retaliate by killing innocent civilians in our countries. At least they take themselves out as well, unlike the European Christian bombers we experienced in the UK some decades ago - plant the bomb and scarper.

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                                        • F F ES Sitecore

                                          Le centriste wrote:

                                          Maybe had Europe left the rest of the world alone, it wouldn't be in that situation today.

                                          Muslims have a long history of violence, especially when it comes to aggressively infiltrating and finally overthrowing the native population. Whilst it's easy to blame the recent attacks etc on "foreign policy", how do you explain the many other instances of genocide committed by Muslims throughout history? Are you also going to blame the rise in sexual assaults\rape of children by Muslims on foreign policy too? If canada's Muslim population is allowed to grow it will have all the same problems Europe is having now and we'll see how smug you are then.

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                                          Le centriste
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                                          F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                          Muslims have a long history of violence

                                          So do Christians. Most religions, also. I hate religions.

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