We need more adblock...
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So lately I've been listening to YouTube on my phone. I just put on some music while cooking or taking a shower when I don't have a decent setup. On my computer I'm running uBlock (and before that adblock) so I haven't seen ads in years. But on my phone I have them again. FOUR MINUTE ADS!!! :wtf: :omg: X| They aren't so much ads, I guess, but you do see a "skip this ad" button. Unfortunately, it's a little hard to skip when my hands are covered with whatever I'm about to eat in ten minutes. Who the hell comes up with these FOUR minute interruptions!? That's about as long, or longer, than whatever song I was about to listen to. FOUR FRIGGIN MINUTES!!! :~ :sigh:
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Not to point out the obvious, but you realise that someone, somewhere, is paying for the music, the hosting, the infrastructure to serve the music and the bandwidth to get it to your ISP (and obviously you pay for the bandwidth to get it from your ISP to your device). If you don't contribute something then you're asking someone else to pay for you. 4 minute ads, though, are dumb. Ads that are simply annoying and pointless are dumb. Ads that are off topic and of not of interest to you are pointless (but not necessarily dumb). Ads that provide you with information that's actually useful are a good thing. So there's a balance here and unfortunately marketing people often tend to want to go for the cheapest, loudest shot they can to hit their performance goals ("clicks") instead of taking the time to actually be informative and useful and hit their company's real goal (sales to happy customers). Making this harder is people don't want to be targeted (even if it's totally anonymous targeting) yet they get militant about ads that are off-topic. This is a really, really important conversation that everyone would rather not have. It's actually fundamental to the future of the web. Someone, somewhere, pays. That "someone" will, always, eventually, end up being the consumer. It's just a matter of "how".
cheers Chris Maunder
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Not to point out the obvious, but you realise that someone, somewhere, is paying for the music, the hosting, the infrastructure to serve the music and the bandwidth to get it to your ISP (and obviously you pay for the bandwidth to get it from your ISP to your device). If you don't contribute something then you're asking someone else to pay for you. 4 minute ads, though, are dumb. Ads that are simply annoying and pointless are dumb. Ads that are off topic and of not of interest to you are pointless (but not necessarily dumb). Ads that provide you with information that's actually useful are a good thing. So there's a balance here and unfortunately marketing people often tend to want to go for the cheapest, loudest shot they can to hit their performance goals ("clicks") instead of taking the time to actually be informative and useful and hit their company's real goal (sales to happy customers). Making this harder is people don't want to be targeted (even if it's totally anonymous targeting) yet they get militant about ads that are off-topic. This is a really, really important conversation that everyone would rather not have. It's actually fundamental to the future of the web. Someone, somewhere, pays. That "someone" will, always, eventually, end up being the consumer. It's just a matter of "how".
cheers Chris Maunder
Yeah, I realize someone has to pay for everything. However, no matter how much advertisements you're going to throw at me I'm not going to click that link or buy that product. So what's the point of those ads, except keeping me from what I really want (in case of YouTube, the video)? Right now I get a lot of Heineken commercials. Yes, I know Heineken. If I order a beer it's probably a Heineken and it sure as hell isn't for me because I DON'T DRINK BEER AT ALL! Do advertisers pay per view or click? If it's per view I get it, if it's per click they haven't made a single penny from me...
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The only problem with everyone using adblockers is one of simple economics. Everything on the internet that is "free" actually has to be paid for somewhere, and advertisers pay for much of it. Block all the ads and these companies will stop paying, with the result being that all these free services will suddenly become chargeable. As the old saying goes: "you pay your money and take your choice": pay nothing and the number of choices get fewer.
And the only problem with that is that we pay anyway. With our time, our bandwidth and (worst of all) with a 'tax' those companies add on everything you buy from them. 'Free' stuff is an illusion, including 'free' OS upgrades. They don't do that because they are such nice people. They want to make money, which is absolutely ok. I only prefer to pay for what I want and not 'free' at all cost.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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Not to point out the obvious, but you realise that someone, somewhere, is paying for the music, the hosting, the infrastructure to serve the music and the bandwidth to get it to your ISP (and obviously you pay for the bandwidth to get it from your ISP to your device). If you don't contribute something then you're asking someone else to pay for you. 4 minute ads, though, are dumb. Ads that are simply annoying and pointless are dumb. Ads that are off topic and of not of interest to you are pointless (but not necessarily dumb). Ads that provide you with information that's actually useful are a good thing. So there's a balance here and unfortunately marketing people often tend to want to go for the cheapest, loudest shot they can to hit their performance goals ("clicks") instead of taking the time to actually be informative and useful and hit their company's real goal (sales to happy customers). Making this harder is people don't want to be targeted (even if it's totally anonymous targeting) yet they get militant about ads that are off-topic. This is a really, really important conversation that everyone would rather not have. It's actually fundamental to the future of the web. Someone, somewhere, pays. That "someone" will, always, eventually, end up being the consumer. It's just a matter of "how".
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
This is a really, really important conversation that everyone would rather not have. It's actually fundamental to the future of the web. Someone, somewhere, pays. That "someone" will, always, eventually, end up being the consumer. It's just a matter of "how".
I remember Internet before it become ad ridden clusterf*** known as Web 2.0, I'm fine with going back to that.
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So lately I've been listening to YouTube on my phone. I just put on some music while cooking or taking a shower when I don't have a decent setup. On my computer I'm running uBlock (and before that adblock) so I haven't seen ads in years. But on my phone I have them again. FOUR MINUTE ADS!!! :wtf: :omg: X| They aren't so much ads, I guess, but you do see a "skip this ad" button. Unfortunately, it's a little hard to skip when my hands are covered with whatever I'm about to eat in ten minutes. Who the hell comes up with these FOUR minute interruptions!? That's about as long, or longer, than whatever song I was about to listen to. FOUR FRIGGIN MINUTES!!! :~ :sigh:
Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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So lately I've been listening to YouTube on my phone. I just put on some music while cooking or taking a shower when I don't have a decent setup. On my computer I'm running uBlock (and before that adblock) so I haven't seen ads in years. But on my phone I have them again. FOUR MINUTE ADS!!! :wtf: :omg: X| They aren't so much ads, I guess, but you do see a "skip this ad" button. Unfortunately, it's a little hard to skip when my hands are covered with whatever I'm about to eat in ten minutes. Who the hell comes up with these FOUR minute interruptions!? That's about as long, or longer, than whatever song I was about to listen to. FOUR FRIGGIN MINUTES!!! :~ :sigh:
Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
I was once watching a documentary on youtube with autoplay turned on. It went to the next video that was very interesting. played for about 25 minutes before I noticed the little 'skip ad' button in the corner. Turned out to be a 45 minute ad that was far more interesting then the video it was hosted in.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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The only problem with everyone using adblockers is one of simple economics. Everything on the internet that is "free" actually has to be paid for somewhere, and advertisers pay for much of it. Block all the ads and these companies will stop paying, with the result being that all these free services will suddenly become chargeable. As the old saying goes: "you pay your money and take your choice": pay nothing and the number of choices get fewer.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Everything on the internet that is "free" actually has to be paid for somewhere
Don't confuse thieves with facts. :laugh:
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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So lately I've been listening to YouTube on my phone. I just put on some music while cooking or taking a shower when I don't have a decent setup. On my computer I'm running uBlock (and before that adblock) so I haven't seen ads in years. But on my phone I have them again. FOUR MINUTE ADS!!! :wtf: :omg: X| They aren't so much ads, I guess, but you do see a "skip this ad" button. Unfortunately, it's a little hard to skip when my hands are covered with whatever I'm about to eat in ten minutes. Who the hell comes up with these FOUR minute interruptions!? That's about as long, or longer, than whatever song I was about to listen to. FOUR FRIGGIN MINUTES!!! :~ :sigh:
Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
Sander Rossel wrote:
I'm running uBlock (and before that adblock)
Years ago, we called that stealing cable from your neighbor. :doh:
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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The only problem with everyone using adblockers is one of simple economics. Everything on the internet that is "free" actually has to be paid for somewhere, and advertisers pay for much of it. Block all the ads and these companies will stop paying, with the result being that all these free services will suddenly become chargeable. As the old saying goes: "you pay your money and take your choice": pay nothing and the number of choices get fewer.
We.Don't.Care.
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The only problem with everyone using adblockers is one of simple economics. Everything on the internet that is "free" actually has to be paid for somewhere, and advertisers pay for much of it. Block all the ads and these companies will stop paying, with the result being that all these free services will suddenly become chargeable. As the old saying goes: "you pay your money and take your choice": pay nothing and the number of choices get fewer.
We all get that if we aren't paying for a product, the product is us, and we're being sold to advertisers. It's how all 'free' entertainment, publishing, and broadcasting works. I almost bought a refurbished Dell desktop, but then they told me that 'people also bought' an ink cartridge and a breadmaker. So I didn't. I went to a real store and bought lumber, concrete mix, a shovel, and grass seed instead - which could be irrelevant, or frightening.
