VB haters, look away
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This is the truth. C# has a lot of Java influence. Sure it borrows from bits and pieces in places from everywhere, but its main influence is from Java. It was created by Java people. This is the truth. If the book says otherwise it's just wrong. C Sharp (programming language) - Wikipedia[^] Now, where VB comes into play a lot... the VB IDE. When .NET first came out Dev Studio for C++ and Dev Studio VB were two different apps. Entirely different. What Microsoft did at first was take the IDE for VB and use it as the basis for the .NET IDE and tossed the old C++ one out the door. So, it had a VBish feel and inspection on it with tools like Spy++ had VB all over the place with class names, etc. This is not to say C# didn't have "some" VB influences, I'm sure it did. But the truth is, most of it's influence is from Java. And the largest VB knock off I've seen with it was with the IDE itself. My source? About a quarter century of programming stuff. Oh, and if this was a joke, then I completely missed it. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
C# has a lot of Java influence.
Never implied otherwise. But you don't seem to be the only one taking it that way. If you look closely at what the book says, it reads "many of C#’s syntactic constructs" come from VB influence. Not that the entire language does.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
if this was a joke,
No, but I think some of you are hastily reading the message. :)
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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> many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. "Modeled after" sometimes means "things that were intentionally avoided".
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Who cares as long as they don't model anything after time honored VB practices. Variants, anybody?
CodeWraith wrote:
Variants, anybody?
they're called "var", in C#
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I'm reading a C# book that was recommended on here recently and found this gem in the beginning.
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The truth of the matter is that many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3123-3124). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
and found this gem in the beginning.
That sounds like Veritable Bull**** ;) Marc
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Lopatir wrote:
C# (C, C++...) messed up, who counts anything from zero? It's unnatural, zero simply does not exist.
Uhm, no. The understanding of the number zero was one of the most important discoveries to get mathmatics on the way and that was thousands of years ago. It's not at all as insignificant as you think. Except for BASIC fans, of course. :-) Then, you are confusing an index with counting. As any machine code or assembly programmer can tell you, you must address the first value in an array at BaseAddress + 0, and the nth value at BaseAddress + ((n-1) * sizeof(type)), or short: The index for the nth element always is (n-1). Except for BASIC fans, of course. :-)
CodeWraith wrote:
Except for BASIC fans, of course.
Some of whom refuse to acknowledge the existence of the zeroth element in their arrays even though it sits there sadly awaiting a value that will never arrive. :^)
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Was happy that they finally updated the switch in C# to have be as flexible as the Visual Basic Select Case. Waited a long time for that one.
I disagree.
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CodeWraith wrote:
Variants, anybody?
they're called "var", in C#
They are not the same thing, but I still don't like them at all. I prefer code that's readable without the help of costly tools like Visual Studio or Intellisense.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
C# has a lot of Java influence.
Never implied otherwise. But you don't seem to be the only one taking it that way. If you look closely at what the book says, it reads "many of C#’s syntactic constructs" come from VB influence. Not that the entire language does.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
if this was a joke,
No, but I think some of you are hastily reading the message. :)
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
No, but I think some of you are hastily reading the message.
It's how we roll up in this joint. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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CodeWraith wrote:
Except for BASIC fans, of course.
Some of whom refuse to acknowledge the existence of the zeroth element in their arrays even though it sits there sadly awaiting a value that will never arrive. :^)
Indexing != counting, no discussion there. I assume that BASIC interpreters and compilers automatically adjusted the index. especially in the days of 8 bit computers they had no memory to waste.
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RyanDev wrote:
and found this gem in the beginning.
That sounds like Veritable Bull**** ;) Marc
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Oh, such a Voracious Bite you have there mister. I like it.
Jeremy Falcon
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RyanDev wrote:
No, but I think some of you are hastily reading the message.
It's how we roll up in this joint. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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I'm reading a C# book that was recommended on here recently and found this gem in the beginning.
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The truth of the matter is that many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3123-3124). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm reading a C# book that was recommended on here recently and found this gem in the beginning.
Quote:
The truth of the matter is that many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3123-3124). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
VB Love is easily cured. In fact, it usually passes shortly after puberty. :cool:
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I'm reading a C# book that was recommended on here recently and found this gem in the beginning.
Quote:
The truth of the matter is that many of C#’s syntactic constructs are modeled after various aspects of Visual Basic (VB) and C++. TROELSEN, ANDREW; Japikse, Philip. C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework (Kindle Locations 3123-3124). Apress. Kindle Edition.
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I disagree.
Well your certainly have the right to not use the new features. How about something about why you do not like the changes to the switch statement.
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VB Love is easily cured. In fact, it usually passes shortly after puberty. :cool:
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
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Indexing != counting, no discussion there. I assume that BASIC interpreters and compilers automatically adjusted the index. especially in the days of 8 bit computers they had no memory to waste.
Have you read the original 1964 spec of BASIC?
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They are not the same thing, but I still don't like them at all. I prefer code that's readable without the help of costly tools like Visual Studio or Intellisense.
Hear hear!
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Now we must talk about the Oracle at Delphi. Sheesh.... :)
I'm just glad Delphi wasn't at (from) Oracle.
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They are not the same thing, but I still don't like them at all. I prefer code that's readable without the help of costly tools like Visual Studio or Intellisense.
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costly tools like Visual Studio or Intellisense.
I use the community edition of VS 2015 at home for free and it has intellisense built it for free. Did I mention it was free? Not costly at all.
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