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Ergonomic Keyboards anyone?

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    theoldfool
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    Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

    Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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      Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

      Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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      MarkTJohnson
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      I image that is a highly personal preference purchase. Not sure where you can go anymore to test them out but I would definitely try before you buy.

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        Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

        Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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        raddevus
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        I own 2 of these (1 work and 1 at home) and have been buying them since they were made available (back in 95 I think): Microsoft Natural ergonomic -- amazon[^] They allow your wrists to rest in their natural state but you have to be a touch typist to use them. Natural state of wrist rest is: * curved fingers * arms turned slightly in (palms slightly facing each other) * wrists aligned (not bent) with the rest of the arm (wrists not bent and pinching internally) * arms supported on desktop --- not forcing shoulders to hold arm weight You can see these keyboards at local office supply stores. ** Also, once you use this keyboard for a few days and try a regular one again, you will notice that your wrists were actually twisted outwards for typing.

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          Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

          Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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          Marc Clifton
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          I second the Microsoft Natural keyboard. Takes a few days getting used to, but I used to suffer from carpal tunnel and using this keyboard, all problems went away, within days. That said, I've been using the [Logitech illuminated Keyboard](https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard-k740) without any issues for a few years now. I think part of the issue is/was the amount of force required to press a key - this keyboard has a very light touch, very nice. Marc

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            Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

            Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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            OriginalGriff
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            Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

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              Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              They don't ship to Israel :( :((

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                Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                theoldfool
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                Bingo! Thank you, I ordered the model with the hand crank.. I was going with the Ergodox but this one looks better. Glad I had your CC number. :-O

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                  Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  Dave Kreskowiak
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                  Awesome! I want one. 12lbs of solid brass comes in handy for those times where you need a blunt weapon to beat pesky whiners in the face with. The comments section on that keyboard is hilarious!

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                    Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    Joan M
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                    Years ago when I worked in my first own company and the safety guy came to tell the workers the important things to know... he asked me to go to the meeting with all the mechanical guys, the electricians... and I remember exactly what I told him: What do you think can happen to me? the keyboard could fall onto my feet? even that it wouldn't be an important injury. It's clear I was not correctly informed. :wtf:

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                      Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                      Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                      Ian Bell 2
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                      I had Carpal tunnel problems and was able to correct it by using the Logitech Wave and the Microsoft Natural keyboards. I found the Microsoft Natural keyboard is more reliable/problem free than the Logitech Wave keyboard. I cannot say if these keyboards will provide relief for arthritis. Given their relatively low price, it might be worthwhile buying one just to try - my recommendation would be the Microsoft Natural keyboard. Good luck, Ian

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                        Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                        Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                        I don't have any particular recommendation beyond "as long as it's curved, it'll be an improvement". I've had ergonomic keyboards since Microsoft first came out with theirs in 1995. I had my doubts about carpal tunnel claims before then, but I can attest first-hand (see what did there?) that it makes a huge difference if you do any serious typing. Now, if only I could find a decent chair...

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                          I had Carpal tunnel problems and was able to correct it by using the Logitech Wave and the Microsoft Natural keyboards. I found the Microsoft Natural keyboard is more reliable/problem free than the Logitech Wave keyboard. I cannot say if these keyboards will provide relief for arthritis. Given their relatively low price, it might be worthwhile buying one just to try - my recommendation would be the Microsoft Natural keyboard. Good luck, Ian

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                          Foothill
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                          I had a Wave too, wireless. I don't know why but it would buffer about 15 to 30 keystrokes then spit them all out at once from time to time. It was real irritating. I have since switch over to a good-ole wired natural ergonomic from microsoft.

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                            Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                            Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                            theoldfool
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                            Thanks to all. If the past is any indicator, I will now procrastinate for a few days and then buy the wrong thing. :( Thanks again.

                            Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                              Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                              Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                              Sasa Cetkovic
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                              I bought Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Desktop a few months ago, I'm very pleased with the shape and feel. Awesome material quality too.

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                                Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                                Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                                MikeD 2
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                                Unfortunately no longer made but I have had the same Microsoft Natural Pro for at least the last 16 or 17 years and yes it is dirty, (somewhere in between the first two pictures in the link) but it has been really reliable although I did have to take the space key mechanism apart when it started jamming as I continually use the left hand side (clean patch) but a few minutes work soon saw that working well again Apart from the fact that I am a slob :( you can even deduce languages that aren't used by looking at how dirty the []{} keys are Microsoft Blog[^] Before I started using this keyboard my wrists used to ache and putting my hand in my trouser pockets was particularly uncomfortable (helped stop me getting the wallet out though :-D )

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                                  Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  milo xml
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                                  Thank you for sending me down the rabbit hole on that one. The reviews on that are fantastic and I discovered that you can buy uranium ore on Amazon! I have a can ordered and expect to have my super powers by the end of the month.

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                                    Thank you for sending me down the rabbit hole on that one. The reviews on that are fantastic and I discovered that you can buy uranium ore on Amazon! I have a can ordered and expect to have my super powers by the end of the month.

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                                    You're going to need the right spider as well - I suggest your local Zoo may be able to help with that one.

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                                      I don't have any particular recommendation beyond "as long as it's curved, it'll be an improvement". I've had ergonomic keyboards since Microsoft first came out with theirs in 1995. I had my doubts about carpal tunnel claims before then, but I can attest first-hand (see what did there?) that it makes a huge difference if you do any serious typing. Now, if only I could find a decent chair...

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                                      Someone mention chair?[^]

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                                        You're going to need the right spider as well - I suggest your local Zoo may be able to help with that one.

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        milo xml
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                                        Good thinking. I was just going to use one out of my basement, but I think those are mutated already. Mixing a mutation from a mutation might not give me the desired results.

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                                          Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                                          Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                                          Leng Vang
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                                          I have a PS/2 Microsoft Natural Keyboard from 1995 that I use everyday for the last 22 years. I took it with me every where I go, had changed jobs half dozen times since then. It collects so much bread-crumbs but it's the best keyboard. I'm very clumsy programming using laptop keyboard or those straight up one. My only fear is that soon PC would stop supporting PS/2. :) I have had all kinds other natural ergo keyboards, one that comes apart into two, vertical one, even other same version Microsoft Natural Keyboard(pro, 4000, 6000), none of them I compare to this old one. It has to have the right key weight -- not too hard.

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