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  • A Andy Lanng

    Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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    Lost User
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    No, it should "who", as it has always been.

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    • A Andy Lanng

      Well, ofc I'm the later!

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      Leo56
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      You mean 'latter'? Pedantry rules OK... ;P

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      • A Andy Lanng

        Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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        GuyThiebaut
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        If you can answer who/whom question with "he" then it's "who", if you can answer it with "him" then it's Whom": Who wrote the code? He wrote the code. By whom was the code written? It was written by him.

        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

        ― Christopher Hitchens

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        • G GuyThiebaut

          If you can answer who/whom question with "he" then it's "who", if you can answer it with "him" then it's Whom": Who wrote the code? He wrote the code. By whom was the code written? It was written by him.

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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          Andy Lanng
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          But it's a statement. The only quiestion I can get out of it is: Who codes? A1: he codes A2: him So you're saying that the question dictates the answer not the other way around? Ah I see. Ok. I'm fine with it now 😉

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          • A Andy Lanng

            But it's a statement. The only quiestion I can get out of it is: Who codes? A1: he codes A2: him So you're saying that the question dictates the answer not the other way around? Ah I see. Ok. I'm fine with it now 😉

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            GuyThiebaut
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            Andy Lanng wrote:

            So you're saying that the question dictates the answer not the other way around?

            It's more a case of the question helping to arrive at the answer, although both are dependent on each other and in that sense interchangeable - having said that, it looks like you have understood that :thumbsup:

            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

            ― Christopher Hitchens

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            • A Andy Lanng

              My education is older that I am Ok then; whome = whom I guess I should've guessed that replies to my pedantic message would be pedantic

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              Member 10652083
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              Have you really got two 'n's in your name?

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              • A Andy Lanng

                Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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                R Erasmus
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                who, unless specified. E.g. Though shall not use who when referring to a person or persons, though shall use whom instead.

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  Andy Lanng wrote:

                  It should be whome, right?

                  No, because "whome" is not a word. :-D /ravi

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Isn't the W silent? Whomer Simpson? :-D

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                    Fer us wot sndz cdz URGNTZZZZZ!!!!!

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                    theoldfool
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                    what I've tried: womb, hoooome, hohum

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                    • A Andy Lanng

                      Can I 5* this

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                      User 13406575
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                      You may, but can you?

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                      • A Andy Lanng

                        Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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                        englebart
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                        "Whom" is the object of a prepositional phrase, an indirect object, or a direct object. English only makes sense once you learn a different language. (less sense in most cases!) Here is how I verify... Translate to Spanish. If it is only "quien" (missing accent), then it is "who". If it is "de quien" (missing accent), then it is "whom". literally: "of whom, from whom, to whom"

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                        • A Andy Lanng

                          Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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                          ClockMeister
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                          Nope, the grammar is correct! (for those who [write] code). You would *not* say "for those whom write code".

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                          • A Andy Lanng

                            Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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                            qmartens
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                            AFAIK, the only way to correctly determine when to who vs. whom, is to use grammar rules that don't really exist in the English language (unless you're a linguist). Native German speakers get this right by intuition, because German does have those rules. It boils down to whether the pronoun refers to the accusative object ('who'), or the dative object ('whom'). Here's a really bad analogy for us geeky types: Using the C++ or C# member access operators, . is 'who', and -> is 'whom'. A better example would be the sentence "Who did what to whom?". Commence flame wars re: ...but isn't "Who" in that example actually the subject (in the grammatical sense)?

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                            • R R Erasmus

                              who, unless specified. E.g. Though shall not use who when referring to a person or persons, though shall use whom instead.

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                              Jim_Snyder
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                              You mean "Thou"? :laugh:

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                              • A Andy Lanng

                                Ok. So I look up the site daily on my phone. I'm not happy that the tag line is "for those who code". It should be whome, right? Just me? Maybe >_<

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                                Wearwolf
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                                I believe it's correct because it's a part of a noun phrase. "Those who code" is the object of the sentence but "who" isn't the object of the phrase.

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                                • J Jim_Snyder

                                  You mean "Thou"? :laugh:

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                                  R Erasmus
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                                  Keeping with the subject :-P

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                                  • R R Erasmus

                                    Keeping with the subject :-P

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                                    Jim_Snyder
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                                    Yep, a slight path alteration, but not recursive.

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                                    • C ClockMeister

                                      Nope, the grammar is correct! (for those who [write] code). You would *not* say "for those whom write code".

                                      If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair

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                                      Jim_Snyder
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                                      Not unless you were a stuffy know-it-all!

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                                      • J Jim_Snyder

                                        Not unless you were a stuffy know-it-all!

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                                        ClockMeister
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                                        LOL! Funny the stuff we get into arguments about in these threads, eh? ;-)

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                                        • C ClockMeister

                                          LOL! Funny the stuff we get into arguments about in these threads, eh? ;-)

                                          If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair

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                                          Jim_Snyder
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                                          Actually, I think most of us need a chuckle and the more preposterous something is, the better.

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