Should I advise a friend to learn IT? (Australia)
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If he is interested in pursuing development I would advise him to download the VS2017 Free Editions including samples and similar stuff and see if it gets his interest from there. Then he should be able to figure out if it is worth going after. :java:
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Yeah I did tell him to do that! ;P
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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Wow that is a couple of disparate career paths. Employment prospects for a nurse are dramatically better than a web developer but I suspect the work is dramatically more difficult. A good, professional nurse is always in demand whereas web developers are a dime a dozen, especially junior ones. But nursing is a vocation, web developing is just a job. He may also have no concept what a developer does and may perceive it as an easy method of work, disabuse of such ideas.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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This guy has not done any research whatsoever and is just day dreaming. In Australia a degree qualified nurse is a far better career choice than web developer. The conditions and job security for nurses cannot be compared with any but a few web developers. He does not seem too serious about either.
Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Wow that is a couple of disparate career paths. Employment prospects for a nurse are dramatically better than a web developer but I suspect the work is dramatically more difficult. A good, professional nurse is always in demand whereas web developers are a dime a dozen, especially junior ones. But nursing is a vocation, web developing is just a job. He may also have no concept what a developer does and may perceive it as an easy method of work, disabuse of such ideas.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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It's not for everyone.
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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With IT, if you are not taking care of your physical workout routine, your health is guaranteed to rot. Non-IT jobs, particularly the ones in hospitals will require a lot of standing and walking. His health is automatically guaranteed. Dont say about the possibility of the infections, Nurses have far more antibodies developed. So health-wise, they are :thumbsup: & with IT, you tend to live more in an illusionary world, you are more into the matrix. Nurse job is more grounded, & closer to reality. I think Nurses get paid well too, in Australia. So may be it's good to take this route, if he's got enough interest there. Lately, I've been realizing the curse of the seated-job. Just wishing it's not too late. Kicking myself up to do some workouts.
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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From a financial and quality of life perspective, nursing is the better choice by far. In America, one can get an associates degree and pass a cert and they're making middle class money. In programming, Computer Science university is difficult, it is difficult to get in the door, and it's difficult to stay in IT throughout you career. Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant.
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From a financial and quality of life perspective, nursing is the better choice by far. In America, one can get an associates degree and pass a cert and they're making middle class money. In programming, Computer Science university is difficult, it is difficult to get in the door, and it's difficult to stay in IT throughout you career. Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant.
Tony Foo wrote:
you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant
I suspect you don't know a lot of nurses, while staying relevant requires less dedication it is still a fairly large part of a nurses life. The few I know a regularly attending courses to keep up with the latest techniques.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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You are an engineer or not. Did he fiddle with stuff as a kid? Taker things apart to see how they worked? Make go carts, or play with mechano? Did he get into electronics, making stuff at home, or programming on a basic computer? If he didnt do any of these he isnt an engineer and shouldnt go into software.
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Tony Foo wrote:
you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant
I suspect you don't know a lot of nurses, while staying relevant requires less dedication it is still a fairly large part of a nurses life. The few I know a regularly attending courses to keep up with the latest techniques.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
And if they're a bit smarter they study a specialty (diagnostics, midwife etc) and can end up in high-end private practice or even working for themselves - have a sister that does private midwife (contract) - constantly booked up the next 9 months (and even more) and it's all referral/repeat/word-of-mouth business. (Toughest part is having to plan holidays a year in advance and turning people down for that period. Also she has a lot of friends, many of them bored? want to see somewhere else? Work in Dubai for a year (crap life for women but mega $), or France, or UK, North America... - a good up-to-date nurse will have a job almost anywhere lined up before the email has finished transmitting. Those that don't bother to update skills, after many years still back home cleaning old folks bedpans.
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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In times of the BBS there was this tagline that said "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway." If an advise is wise then it is difficult to advise and obey at the same time. :) So my advice is not to advise him anything. A responsibility for other peoples life choices is too heavy to carry on your own shoulders. Sorry to moralize early in the morning. It is well intended. :java:
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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Those are two very different careers! Nursing, as someone else has said, is a vocation and generally requires a person to work well with people - put them at ease when they're in distress and sometimes do things that you know is going to hurt them. IT doesn't generally need that level of people skills but involves a lot of 'engineering' type stuff like problem solving and graphical design.
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Tony Foo wrote:
you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant
I suspect you don't know a lot of nurses, while staying relevant requires less dedication it is still a fairly large part of a nurses life. The few I know a regularly attending courses to keep up with the latest techniques.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
No, but I did have a girl friend a few years ago that was a nurse administrator during the week and head nurse on the weekends. She never talked about training, but she is smart. We have a nurse at work whose office is somewhat near mine. I would guess he doesn't go to medical training because he's either in the office or on vacation/sick leave.
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I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?
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Nursing is ONLY for a people person. You have to genuinely love helping people. That certainly helps with IT but I guess not essential. If he is not he will eventually end up resenting the people he is supposed to be helping and the people he works with. I worked as an AAC technologist (what Stephen Hawking, Roger Eber, etc. use) for a hospital clinic for almost 14 years. I was described as a "Left-brain" IT type by one of my profesors at school. I trust that's helpful for your friend.
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From a financial and quality of life perspective, nursing is the better choice by far. In America, one can get an associates degree and pass a cert and they're making middle class money. In programming, Computer Science university is difficult, it is difficult to get in the door, and it's difficult to stay in IT throughout you career. Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant.
"Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant" Oh my...so wrong! Where did you get that idea from. My mother was a nurse over 50 years ago and was constantly relearning. I would guess today, even more so with all the technology being injected into health care. Some good , some bad.