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Should I advise a friend to learn IT? (Australia)

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  • S Super Lloyd

    I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?

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    Eytukan
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    With IT, if you are not taking care of your physical workout routine, your health is guaranteed to rot. Non-IT jobs, particularly the ones in hospitals will require a lot of standing and walking. His health is automatically guaranteed. Dont say about the possibility of the infections, Nurses have far more antibodies developed. So health-wise, they are :thumbsup: & with IT, you tend to live more in an illusionary world, you are more into the matrix. Nurse job is more grounded, & closer to reality. I think Nurses get paid well too, in Australia. So may be it's good to take this route, if he's got enough interest there. Lately, I've been realizing the curse of the seated-job. Just wishing it's not too late. Kicking myself up to do some workouts.

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    • S Super Lloyd

      I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?

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      Tony Foo
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      From a financial and quality of life perspective, nursing is the better choice by far. In America, one can get an associates degree and pass a cert and they're making middle class money. In programming, Computer Science university is difficult, it is difficult to get in the door, and it's difficult to stay in IT throughout you career. Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant.

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      • T Tony Foo

        From a financial and quality of life perspective, nursing is the better choice by far. In America, one can get an associates degree and pass a cert and they're making middle class money. In programming, Computer Science university is difficult, it is difficult to get in the door, and it's difficult to stay in IT throughout you career. Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant.

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Tony Foo wrote:

        you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant

        I suspect you don't know a lot of nurses, while staying relevant requires less dedication it is still a fairly large part of a nurses life. The few I know a regularly attending courses to keep up with the latest techniques.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • S Super Lloyd

          I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?

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          Munchies_Matt
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          You are an engineer or not. Did he fiddle with stuff as a kid? Taker things apart to see how they worked? Make go carts, or play with mechano? Did he get into electronics, making stuff at home, or programming on a basic computer? If he didnt do any of these he isnt an engineer and shouldnt go into software.

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            Tony Foo wrote:

            you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant

            I suspect you don't know a lot of nurses, while staying relevant requires less dedication it is still a fairly large part of a nurses life. The few I know a regularly attending courses to keep up with the latest techniques.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            Lost User
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            And if they're a bit smarter they study a specialty (diagnostics, midwife etc) and can end up in high-end private practice or even working for themselves - have a sister that does private midwife (contract) - constantly booked up the next 9 months (and even more) and it's all referral/repeat/word-of-mouth business. (Toughest part is having to plan holidays a year in advance and turning people down for that period. Also she has a lot of friends, many of them bored? want to see somewhere else? Work in Dubai for a year (crap life for women but mega $), or France, or UK, North America... - a good up-to-date nurse will have a job almost anywhere lined up before the email has finished transmitting. Those that don't bother to update skills, after many years still back home cleaning old folks bedpans.

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            • S Super Lloyd

              I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?

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              A_Griffin
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              He hesitates between nurse and web developer.

              Maybe he could combine the two and go into tech support! :laugh:

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              • S Super Lloyd

                I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?

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                In times of the BBS there was this tagline that said "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway." If an advise is wise then it is difficult to advise and obey at the same time. :) So my advice is not to advise him anything. A responsibility for other peoples life choices is too heavy to carry on your own shoulders. Sorry to moralize early in the morning. It is well intended. :java:

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                • S Super Lloyd

                  I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?

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                  SkysTheLimit
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                  Those are two very different careers! Nursing, as someone else has said, is a vocation and generally requires a person to work well with people - put them at ease when they're in distress and sometimes do things that you know is going to hurt them. IT doesn't generally need that level of people skills but involves a lot of 'engineering' type stuff like problem solving and graphical design.

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    Tony Foo wrote:

                    you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant

                    I suspect you don't know a lot of nurses, while staying relevant requires less dedication it is still a fairly large part of a nurses life. The few I know a regularly attending courses to keep up with the latest techniques.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    Tony Foo
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                    No, but I did have a girl friend a few years ago that was a nurse administrator during the week and head nurse on the weekends. She never talked about training, but she is smart. We have a nurse at work whose office is somewhat near mine. I would guess he doesn't go to medical training because he's either in the office or on vacation/sick leave.

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      I have a friend who want to do some study to get a better job. He hesitates between nurse and web developer. Well I am a successful all around (except game) developer, and I love it. So I advise him to got that way. But hey, just like a thread a few hours earlier. Some people have very bad experience with IT. So.. not sure whether it's a good idea. Plus I got the perspective of a senior developer. Being a junior is tougher. Any tips? What should I advise him to do?

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                      AAC Tech
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                      Nursing is ONLY for a people person. You have to genuinely love helping people. That certainly helps with IT but I guess not essential. If he is not he will eventually end up resenting the people he is supposed to be helping and the people he works with. I worked as an AAC technologist (what Stephen Hawking, Roger Eber, etc. use) for a hospital clinic for almost 14 years. I was described as a "Left-brain" IT type by one of my profesors at school. I trust that's helpful for your friend.

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                      • T Tony Foo

                        From a financial and quality of life perspective, nursing is the better choice by far. In America, one can get an associates degree and pass a cert and they're making middle class money. In programming, Computer Science university is difficult, it is difficult to get in the door, and it's difficult to stay in IT throughout you career. Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant.

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                        AAC Tech
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                        "Plus, in nursing, you don't have to study throughout your career to stay relevant" Oh my...so wrong! Where did you get that idea from. My mother was a nurse over 50 years ago and was constantly relearning. I would guess today, even more so with all the technology being injected into health care. Some good , some bad.

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