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  • M Marc Clifton

    ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

    Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    My current job isn't really due to government regulations, but some regulations that were made after I started doing this will ensure its continued existence for a long time. My current employer is "too big to fail". At least it pays well.

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    • M Marc Clifton

      ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

      Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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      Kaladin
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      I work on controllers for environmental testing, and while some industries, such as automotive, probably wouldn't if there weren't federal safety regulations, we do work in enough industries that we'd still be doing this if there weren't federal laws.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

        Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        TNCaver
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        Probably not. My industry--consisting of only three companies in the USA (there's your clue)--deals in music performance rights, recognized by US Copyright Law.

        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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          Yes but a lot less. Many food manifacturers don't really care if the products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.

          GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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          TNCaver
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          Interesting. Why do you think they don't care?

          If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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            Interesting. Why do you think they don't care?

            If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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            den2k88
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            Many of them are fairly candid about it, they're searching for the most economic inspection machinery just to follow the laws on production control. The others don't say it openly but it is evident by their approach, actions and decisions.

            GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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            • D den2k88

              Many of them are fairly candid about it, they're searching for the most economic inspection machinery just to follow the laws on production control. The others don't say it openly but it is evident by their approach, actions and decisions.

              GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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              TNCaver
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              That's disturbing that they wouldn't care about their customer's health.

              If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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              • T TNCaver

                That's disturbing that they wouldn't care about their customer's health.

                If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                den2k88
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                You should see some of the food products I had the questionable pleasure of seeing, smelling and manipulating. Disturbing acquires a whole new meaning :~ :~ :~

                GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                • D den2k88

                  Yes but a lot less. Many food manifacturers don't really care if the products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.

                  GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                  S Douglas
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                  den2k88 wrote:

                  products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.

                  Flavor enhancers! :)


                  Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                    den2k88 wrote:

                    products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.

                    Flavor enhancers! :)


                    Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                    englebart
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                    These can be classified as "other natural ingredients" If you pulverize the glass into grains, then you can list it as "silicon dioxide" aka "sand". Check out your sweetener packet with your next cup of coffee.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                      Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                      PSU Steve
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                      I work for the US Air Force, so without that federal regulation called the National Security Act of 1947 I probably wouldn't be doing what I do... ;-)

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                      • D den2k88

                        Yes but a lot less. Many food manifacturers don't really care if the products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.

                        GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                        Hooga Booga
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                        That's so strange. I used to work for Purina (pet foods) and they were highly strict about incoming and outgoing quality. Time to switch to Dog Chow?

                        Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx

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                          That's so strange. I used to work for Purina (pet foods) and they were highly strict about incoming and outgoing quality. Time to switch to Dog Chow?

                          Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx

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                          den2k88
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                          Purina (Nestlè, IIRC) is incredibly strict on anything. Usually the biggest names are maniacal regarding the safety of their products. Most of small-time producers, some of them property of big multinationals but under different (and cheaper) brands on the other hand...

                          GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                            Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                            obermd
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                            The insurance industry was around prior to government regulations. Granted it's gotten a lot more regulated since WWII but it existed prior to that. Lloyds of London has been insuring shipping companies since before the rise of the steam engine.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                              Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                              Cloud William
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                              I work for a payroll provider, as a software developer. I would argue that, if not for federal and state laws and regulations, most if not all of the "information technology" industry would not exist. I mean, how hard is it to pay people when they provide a good or service? If you don't have to report to several other parties (the IRS, state and city tax authorities, EEOC, SEC, etc. ad ridiculum), paper record keeping is sufficient, even for very large companies, and it was so until well into the 1970's. Yes, computers are really cool. Yes, the Internet is a thing. Yes, computers are useful and necessary for space travel, modern product design, scientific research, etc. But would any of that happened at all if the damn government didn't require massive amounts of information about things that, in a proper society, shouldn't be any of their damned business?

                              Freedom? That is a worship word. -- Cloud William The only thing a free man can be forced to do is die.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                                Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                agolddog
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                                Probably not, we provide health & safety and compliance-type software and services. But, I'd just be grinding out business software somewhere else. It doesn't matter.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                                  Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                  Chad Strawinski
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                                  Probably not. The software I work on is for helping distilleries stay compliant with TTB reporting rules and regulations. The other stuff we offer is gravy :)

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                                    Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                    Kirk 10389821
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                                    Do you consider property rights a "Federal Law"? I work for small companies. All of which are IMPACTED by Federal Laws, but none of which are created by more than Property Rights, and demands of consumers. One client exists because Federal Laws make importing plants very very expensive/laborious/time consuming, so he brokers deals. But again, it's to get AROUND the impact of the laws, not to serve them. Also, it makes sense to have someone specialize in maintaining these relationships, as opposed to every tiny nursery doing it themselves. (For the record, we have good reason to quarantine, and control this. Red army ants, and Kudzu being 2 disastrous examples of what can get into a country) Can we avoid the impact of Federal Laws? Not really. And that's sad. Property Rights, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association should rule.

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                                      Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                      David Carta
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                                      My company builds handheld software for security and safety. Some of our clients are government clients that are trying to check a box, but the majority truly want improve safety for their employees, better efficiency, and better security. It is one of the great benefits of starting your own company. You can walk away from red tape and projects you feel are not advancing human productivity.


                                      "Qulatiy is Job #1"

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                                        Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                        Peter Shaw
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                                        That rather depends which way you look at it :-) I'm an independent consultant, so I cover pretty much all industry's, in all sectors. I do write a lot of software, which at the moment is mostly LOB Web Apps in dotnet core for a few different industries, I also do a lot of R&D projects where I'm tasked with working out new ways of doing stuff. However, I could also be classed as being in an industry that does depend on Lawyers and all that jazz, but not directly. I write books, and do training courses, so a lot of what I do in that respect means that if it wasn't for you lot that work because of the lawyers etc, I'd have a lot less work, in producing materials that you use. :-)

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          ...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?

                                          Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                          James Lonero
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                                          If I didn't work as a software engineer, I would collect welfare. Then, I could make more than working at McDonalds.

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