I work in an industry...
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Yes but a lot less. Many food manifacturers don't really care if the products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote:
products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.
Flavor enhancers! :)
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
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Yes but a lot less. Many food manifacturers don't really care if the products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
That's so strange. I used to work for Purina (pet foods) and they were highly strict about incoming and outgoing quality. Time to switch to Dog Chow?
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
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That's so strange. I used to work for Purina (pet foods) and they were highly strict about incoming and outgoing quality. Time to switch to Dog Chow?
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
Purina (Nestlè, IIRC) is incredibly strict on anything. Usually the biggest names are maniacal regarding the safety of their products. Most of small-time producers, some of them property of big multinationals but under different (and cheaper) brands on the other hand...
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
I work for a payroll provider, as a software developer. I would argue that, if not for federal and state laws and regulations, most if not all of the "information technology" industry would not exist. I mean, how hard is it to pay people when they provide a good or service? If you don't have to report to several other parties (the IRS, state and city tax authorities, EEOC, SEC, etc. ad ridiculum), paper record keeping is sufficient, even for very large companies, and it was so until well into the 1970's. Yes, computers are really cool. Yes, the Internet is a thing. Yes, computers are useful and necessary for space travel, modern product design, scientific research, etc. But would any of that happened at all if the damn government didn't require massive amounts of information about things that, in a proper society, shouldn't be any of their damned business?
Freedom? That is a worship word. -- Cloud William The only thing a free man can be forced to do is die.
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Probably not. The software I work on is for helping distilleries stay compliant with TTB reporting rules and regulations. The other stuff we offer is gravy :)
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
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Do you consider property rights a "Federal Law"? I work for small companies. All of which are IMPACTED by Federal Laws, but none of which are created by more than Property Rights, and demands of consumers. One client exists because Federal Laws make importing plants very very expensive/laborious/time consuming, so he brokers deals. But again, it's to get AROUND the impact of the laws, not to serve them. Also, it makes sense to have someone specialize in maintaining these relationships, as opposed to every tiny nursery doing it themselves. (For the record, we have good reason to quarantine, and control this. Red army ants, and Kudzu being 2 disastrous examples of what can get into a country) Can we avoid the impact of Federal Laws? Not really. And that's sad. Property Rights, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Association should rule.
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
My company builds handheld software for security and safety. Some of our clients are government clients that are trying to check a box, but the majority truly want improve safety for their employees, better efficiency, and better security. It is one of the great benefits of starting your own company. You can walk away from red tape and projects you feel are not advancing human productivity.
"Qulatiy is Job #1"
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
That rather depends which way you look at it :-) I'm an independent consultant, so I cover pretty much all industry's, in all sectors. I do write a lot of software, which at the moment is mostly LOB Web Apps in dotnet core for a few different industries, I also do a lot of R&D projects where I'm tasked with working out new ways of doing stuff. However, I could also be classed as being in an industry that does depend on Lawyers and all that jazz, but not directly. I write books, and do training courses, so a lot of what I do in that respect means that if it wasn't for you lot that work because of the lawyers etc, I'd have a lot less work, in producing materials that you use. :-)
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
If I didn't work as a software engineer, I would collect welfare. Then, I could make more than working at McDonalds.
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Purina (Nestlè, IIRC) is incredibly strict on anything. Usually the biggest names are maniacal regarding the safety of their products. Most of small-time producers, some of them property of big multinationals but under different (and cheaper) brands on the other hand...
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
Nestle did have their big problem with infant formula back in the 80s
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Interesting. Why do you think they don't care?
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
Because the Republicans are in power and don't care about health issues or the environment. Let business do what it wants to the detriment of public health, safety, and the environment. (And they call themselves Christians.)
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Yes but a lot less. Many food manifacturers don't really care if the products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
den2k88 wrote:
Many food manifacturers don't really care if the products they sell are contaminated with glass shards or stone fragments.
Perhaps that is cultural. In the US they do care because real cases of contamination can lead to a decrease in profits. Continued problems (repeats) can lead to brand depreciation that can last for years. That is because there are always competitors and people are willing to pay more if they think there is a quality difference (which there realistically would be if one product continued to be contaminated.)
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Purina (Nestlè, IIRC) is incredibly strict on anything. Usually the biggest names are maniacal regarding the safety of their products. Most of small-time producers, some of them property of big multinationals but under different (and cheaper) brands on the other hand...
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
den2k88 wrote:
Most of small-time producers,
Not in the US. Small competitors can't compete on price because they do not have enough volume to negotiate raw materials pricing nor can they support bringing some processing in house. Which means that almost always they have to compete on quality.
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Marc Clifton wrote:
In other words, the "insurance" industry.
Lloyds of London was a private enterprise that started with insurance in late 1600s. Nothing government about them. As a business practice insurance existed in the 1750 BC. Again not a government practice. History of insurance - Wikipedia[^]
Marc Clifton wrote:
weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements
The reality is that contract law needs to exist because there is no practical way to contractually define all possibilities. So disputes about what was meant and what is fair will always arise. There is no other possibility (not with humans.) And for that to be real a legal system must exist. And if one allows that to be financed by markets then there is an increased perception that economic biases will exist and likely that they actually will exist. Thus a third party would always be required to maintain that. Since there are other needs for legal systems using a single source for all of that is efficient. Which leads to a government running the courts.
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...that probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for lawyers, lawsuits, and government mandated requirements. In other words, the "insurance" industry. What about you? Would you be working at your job if it weren't for federal laws?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Because the Republicans are in power and don't care about health issues or the environment. Let business do what it wants to the detriment of public health, safety, and the environment. (And they call themselves Christians.)