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  • M Marc Clifton

    "the peak hours" is awkward -- normally, the phrase is without "the", as in "during peak hours" "and they will thus not be affected" => remove it entirely. "will get the unmodified master playlist" is sufficient. Or: "will not be affected and will get the unmodified master playlist." "will get the" => "will receive". "Get" is sort of low class and probably lacking descriptiveness. "will get the the unmodified" => I'm assuming the second "the" was a typo? Consider reversing the logic of the sentence: "Users who start streaming during peak hours will receive a modified playlist. Users who start streaming just before peak hours are unaffected."

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    megaadam
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    Wowzerz! Thanx! I think I owe you a :beer: !

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    • M megaadam

      Thanks good answer, and yeah, I do have the "the the" in almost every sentence I write :sigh: is there a diagnosis for that?

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      Nelek
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      megaadam wrote:

      is there a diagnosis for that?

      not enough :java::java:

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        megaadam wrote:

        is there a diagnosis for that?

        not enough :java::java:

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        megaadam
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        Or too much of it. :suss:

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        • M megaadam

          Or too much of it. :suss:

          ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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          Nelek
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          SACRILEGE... there is never too much coffee or bacon :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          • M megaadam

            :cool:Not exactly homework, more like a fine tuning of the fine English language. Here is a passage of the documentation I am writing.

            Users who start streaming during the peak hours will be affected. Users who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the the unmodified master playlist and they will thus not be affected.

            I find the "they" at the end a bit clunky. But if just write

            [...] and will thus not be affected.

            I am not sure if the sentence remains correct, and clear. I mean "they" refers to the unaffected users, and in the the second case "will" is referring back to the users. Perhaps both are fine but I wonder. Thanks for any input, and for reading this far.

            ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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            GuyThiebaut
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            megaadam wrote:

            Users who start streaming during the peak hours will be affected. Users who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the the unmodified master playlist and they will thus not be affected.

            You have two 'the's in that sentence ;)

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            • M Marc Clifton

              "the peak hours" is awkward -- normally, the phrase is without "the", as in "during peak hours" "and they will thus not be affected" => remove it entirely. "will get the unmodified master playlist" is sufficient. Or: "will not be affected and will get the unmodified master playlist." "will get the" => "will receive". "Get" is sort of low class and probably lacking descriptiveness. "will get the the unmodified" => I'm assuming the second "the" was a typo? Consider reversing the logic of the sentence: "Users who start streaming during peak hours will receive a modified playlist. Users who start streaming just before peak hours are unaffected."

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              CodeWraith
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              And while we are at it, we could replasse all the 'will's with 'shall', thus making it clear that there shall be no discussions about this. :-)

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              • G GuyThiebaut

                megaadam wrote:

                Users who start streaming during the peak hours will be affected. Users who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the the unmodified master playlist and they will thus not be affected.

                You have two 'the's in that sentence ;)

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                megaadam
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                I do not! I never never repeat myself.

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                • M megaadam

                  :cool:Not exactly homework, more like a fine tuning of the fine English language. Here is a passage of the documentation I am writing.

                  Users who start streaming during the peak hours will be affected. Users who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the the unmodified master playlist and they will thus not be affected.

                  I find the "they" at the end a bit clunky. But if just write

                  [...] and will thus not be affected.

                  I am not sure if the sentence remains correct, and clear. I mean "they" refers to the unaffected users, and in the the second case "will" is referring back to the users. Perhaps both are fine but I wonder. Thanks for any input, and for reading this far.

                  ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                  Duke Carey
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                  Bless you, bless you, bless you for using "affected" instead of the abomination that is "impacted." Wisdom teeth are sometimes "impacted." Otherwise that word should rarely be used

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I'd agree - "thus" is pretty archaic and not needed in "Normal writing".

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                    MKJCP
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                    For some reason "thus" often works well for me. I like non-standard words, it keeps things interesting. I used "notwithstanding" a couple times in a training manual. Once and a while I like to use the interrobang (Alt+8253) in an e-mail. A great and underused punctuation mark. Not sure how to do it here though.

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                    • M MKJCP

                      For some reason "thus" often works well for me. I like non-standard words, it keeps things interesting. I used "notwithstanding" a couple times in a training manual. Once and a while I like to use the interrobang (Alt+8253) in an e-mail. A great and underused punctuation mark. Not sure how to do it here though.

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      The trouble with that is that it's demonstrating your education, your intelligence. Like using "diacritic" to describe the accents that appear above or below a character in some languages. It's the right word, but 99% of people have never even heard of it! That's not what a manual or user instruction is about: it's to help the user, not make him feel stupid. Took me a long time to realise that: you write for "average Joe" (or more likely for "less-than-average Joe") so that what you write is as clear as possible to everybody. Save clever language for talking to clever people - who will probably critique your usage, but that's life! :laugh: For example, in the previous sentence I used a dash, which is wrong but understood. It should — of course — be an em dash as in this sentence.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        The trouble with that is that it's demonstrating your education, your intelligence. Like using "diacritic" to describe the accents that appear above or below a character in some languages. It's the right word, but 99% of people have never even heard of it! That's not what a manual or user instruction is about: it's to help the user, not make him feel stupid. Took me a long time to realise that: you write for "average Joe" (or more likely for "less-than-average Joe") so that what you write is as clear as possible to everybody. Save clever language for talking to clever people - who will probably critique your usage, but that's life! :laugh: For example, in the previous sentence I used a dash, which is wrong but understood. It should — of course — be an em dash as in this sentence.

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                        MKJCP
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                        I agree with this, generally. I design and build analytical software for use by actuaries, so the intended audience isn't the average Joe. Thus, I feel I have some latitude in this regard.

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                        • M megaadam

                          :cool:Not exactly homework, more like a fine tuning of the fine English language. Here is a passage of the documentation I am writing.

                          Users who start streaming during the peak hours will be affected. Users who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the the unmodified master playlist and they will thus not be affected.

                          I find the "they" at the end a bit clunky. But if just write

                          [...] and will thus not be affected.

                          I am not sure if the sentence remains correct, and clear. I mean "they" refers to the unaffected users, and in the the second case "will" is referring back to the users. Perhaps both are fine but I wonder. Thanks for any input, and for reading this far.

                          ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                          englebart
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                          In my opinion, "get" can always be replaced by a better word! I use "get" way too much in my own speech; I try to never use it in a document. You get understand my point?

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                          • M megaadam

                            :cool:Not exactly homework, more like a fine tuning of the fine English language. Here is a passage of the documentation I am writing.

                            Users who start streaming during the peak hours will be affected. Users who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the the unmodified master playlist and they will thus not be affected.

                            I find the "they" at the end a bit clunky. But if just write

                            [...] and will thus not be affected.

                            I am not sure if the sentence remains correct, and clear. I mean "they" refers to the unaffected users, and in the the second case "will" is referring back to the users. Perhaps both are fine but I wonder. Thanks for any input, and for reading this far.

                            ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                            UncleBuckFever
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                            Users who initiate streaming during peak hours will be affected. Users who initiate streaming before peak hours will not be affected, and acquire the unmodified master playlist.

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                            • M megaadam

                              :cool:Not exactly homework, more like a fine tuning of the fine English language. Here is a passage of the documentation I am writing.

                              Users who start streaming during the peak hours will be affected. Users who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the the unmodified master playlist and they will thus not be affected.

                              I find the "they" at the end a bit clunky. But if just write

                              [...] and will thus not be affected.

                              I am not sure if the sentence remains correct, and clear. I mean "they" refers to the unaffected users, and in the the second case "will" is referring back to the users. Perhaps both are fine but I wonder. Thanks for any input, and for reading this far.

                              ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                              Lost User
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                              Sounds like a bathroom break. Muzak playlist?

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                              • A A_Griffin

                                I would write

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                                Players who start streaming just before the peak hours will get the unmodified master playlist and will not be affected.

                                leaving out "they" and "thus". btw, you have "the the" in your sentence.

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                                James Lonero
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                                I agree. Keep it short and simple. Remove the unnecessary bloat.

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