VS 2017
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After the initial install, VS 2017 gives you an initial "honeymoon" period in which everything works perfectly. Behind the scenes, it is using (as yet unannounced, rumored to be of North Korean origin) biological and neurological monitoring and telemetry to construct your psychic profile. Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite. Just like Windows 10. cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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Everything is better! And then... you try to make an UWP or Xamarin app... and it's slow again! :(
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
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After the initial install, VS 2017 gives you an initial "honeymoon" period in which everything works perfectly. Behind the scenes, it is using (as yet unannounced, rumored to be of North Korean origin) biological and neurological monitoring and telemetry to construct your psychic profile. Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite. Just like Windows 10. cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
Wow, Bill, you obviously have some insider knowledge, we can see! :omg:
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
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After the initial install, VS 2017 gives you an initial "honeymoon" period in which everything works perfectly. Behind the scenes, it is using (as yet unannounced, rumored to be of North Korean origin) biological and neurological monitoring and telemetry to construct your psychic profile. Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite. Just like Windows 10. cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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After the initial install, VS 2017 gives you an initial "honeymoon" period in which everything works perfectly. Behind the scenes, it is using (as yet unannounced, rumored to be of North Korean origin) biological and neurological monitoring and telemetry to construct your psychic profile. Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite. Just like Windows 10. cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
BillWoodruff wrote:
Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite.
What does it do? Will you wake up one morning with Kimie's famous hairstyle?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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After the initial install, VS 2017 gives you an initial "honeymoon" period in which everything works perfectly. Behind the scenes, it is using (as yet unannounced, rumored to be of North Korean origin) biological and neurological monitoring and telemetry to construct your psychic profile. Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite. Just like Windows 10. cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
:wtf: :suss:
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite.
What does it do? Will you wake up one morning with Kimie's famous hairstyle?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Ha well, safe then! Those are good options though! :laugh:
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
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Everything is better! And then... you try to make an UWP or Xamarin app... and it's slow again! :(
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
I was thinking to start playing around wiwith xamarin in Vs 2017 :(
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I was thinking to start playing around wiwith xamarin in Vs 2017 :(
I've tried it (Xamarin in VS2017) - it isn't too bad imo. Most pseudo-native app development platforms are pretty slow compared to their native counterparts anyways. There's often a significant productivity boost from a dev's perspective (you can get more done faster), but it comes at the cost of more obscure edge-case bugs, limited functionality, and/or runtime speed impacts in the shipped product.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A.
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After the initial install, VS 2017 gives you an initial "honeymoon" period in which everything works perfectly. Behind the scenes, it is using (as yet unannounced, rumored to be of North Korean origin) biological and neurological monitoring and telemetry to construct your psychic profile. Then, after it has assessed your weaknesses, it administers the killing bite. Just like Windows 10. cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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lw@zi wrote:
I clicked on icon and it opened pretty quickly
Wow, did we really lower our expectations to that point ? If so, we will be surprised by VS2019 if it starts at all.
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I've tried it (Xamarin in VS2017) - it isn't too bad imo. Most pseudo-native app development platforms are pretty slow compared to their native counterparts anyways. There's often a significant productivity boost from a dev's perspective (you can get more done faster), but it comes at the cost of more obscure edge-case bugs, limited functionality, and/or runtime speed impacts in the shipped product.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A.
Well.. i have kicked off the installation with Workloads Xamarin, .NET Core
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I was thinking to start playing around wiwith xamarin in Vs 2017 :(
Don't worry, it's good. And with a bit of work you can make snappy multiplatform app. I have 3 gorgeous and snappy phone (iPhone + Android) under my belt from my previous work! So it's true! ;) But the dev experience can be frustrating every now and then.... I guess it's quite better that it used to be hey?
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
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Don't worry, it's good. And with a bit of work you can make snappy multiplatform app. I have 3 gorgeous and snappy phone (iPhone + Android) under my belt from my previous work! So it's true! ;) But the dev experience can be frustrating every now and then.... I guess it's quite better that it used to be hey?
A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!
yeah, i am hoping that it would be not that much bad experience, as i want to get some hands-on Xamarin and then would blog some useful tutorials, and may be able to make some useful cool utility app :)
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Hmm, I guess both Windows 10 and VS2017 on my systems must be broken. They never give me problems.
@richardmaccutchan Well, let's see: 1. started the day with the win 10 taskbar at the bottom of the screen squnched down where the icons were not visible: re-booting did not change this ... could not re-size it, or change it by moving to the right, left, top, and then back to the bottom of the screen. after installing the latest win 10 patch: it is restored. 2. since about 4 win 10 patches ago, I cannot adjust the screen brightness in the usual way, or by using the Lenovo hot-keys. given my serious vision problems ... the reason i purchased this high-end laptop ... this is a real problem. VS 2017: 0. the notification for "optimizing" start-up times keeps appearing no matter how many times I select to permanently disable it. i reported this to MS: their response was: "sent to triage" 1. today I started a WinForm control library project, added a Component which I set to inherit from TreeView ... then, I added a WinForm app project to test the component in. somehow, with standard debug build settings ... and no references to anything web ... within five minutes i could no longer compile: with the error message that the UserControl preview window whatever could not be loaded from some web namespace. had to rebuild a fresh solution. no amount of fiddling withe build settings, and re-building.cleaning cycles would fix this. 2nd. tome this happened, and never happened before VS 2017. If I could make up the various nightmares I've had, and my friends have had, I'd be writing for Hollywood :)
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12