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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Well ... there are scalar functions:

    CREATE FUNCTION justNumeric
    (
    @INP NVARCHAR(20)
    )
    RETURNS NVARCHAR(20)
    AS
    BEGIN
    RETURN substring(@INP, PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', @INP), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', @INP+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', @INP))
    END

    SELECT MIN(dbo.justNumeric(ID)), MAX(dbo.justNumeric(ID)), Fruit
    FROM Fruits
    GROUP BY Fruit

    Still messy code though - a DB redesign is a better approach!

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    Functions significantly slow down queries. Not really a valid workaround, IMHO.

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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      a lot of DBA's "aren't programmers"

      It has been my experience that a lot of DBAs are not DBAs. :sigh:

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      Slacker007 wrote:

      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      a lot of DBA's "aren't programmers"

      It has been my experience that a lot of DBAs are not DBAs. :sigh:

      And not all programmers are programmers. But on the bright side the marketing people know everything about databases and programs, where would we be without them?

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        ...if SQL had macro functionality (kinda like C++) that would help reduce the amount of repetitive bullcrap we have to deal with? For instance, this is part of an answer I posted in the C# forum.

        SELECT MIN(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MinID,
        MAX(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MaxID,
        [Fruit]
        FROM [#fruits]
        GROUP BY [Fruit]

        It would really nice if I could create a macro with the contents of the repeated code:

        substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))

        Something like this:

        declare @justNumeric MACRO =

        Which would reduce the first query to this:

        SELECT MIN(@justNumeric) AS MinID,
        MAX(@justNumeric) AS MaxID,
        [Fruit]
        FROM [#fruits]
        GROUP BY [Fruit

        This couldn't possibly have an adverse effect on SQL's error reporting incapabilities (Syntax error near ','), so I'm not concerned with that. Am I just an optimistic dreamer?

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Music please, Wouldn't It Be Nice[^] :-\

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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          a lot of DBA's "aren't programmers"

          It has been my experience that a lot of DBAs are not DBAs. :sigh:

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          It did reminds me who they are. Prostitutes. Jeremy comment[^]. :)

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            ...if SQL had macro functionality (kinda like C++) that would help reduce the amount of repetitive bullcrap we have to deal with? For instance, this is part of an answer I posted in the C# forum.

            SELECT MIN(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MinID,
            MAX(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MaxID,
            [Fruit]
            FROM [#fruits]
            GROUP BY [Fruit]

            It would really nice if I could create a macro with the contents of the repeated code:

            substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))

            Something like this:

            declare @justNumeric MACRO =

            Which would reduce the first query to this:

            SELECT MIN(@justNumeric) AS MinID,
            MAX(@justNumeric) AS MaxID,
            [Fruit]
            FROM [#fruits]
            GROUP BY [Fruit

            This couldn't possibly have an adverse effect on SQL's error reporting incapabilities (Syntax error near ','), so I'm not concerned with that. Am I just an optimistic dreamer?

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            Well - there are functions, which can do this, sort of. But, I agree.   I work with a real DBA (who can program when necessary) and looking at some of his stored procedures and I would definitely go with MACROs to give my weary eyes and mind a rest.

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              ...if SQL had macro functionality (kinda like C++) that would help reduce the amount of repetitive bullcrap we have to deal with? For instance, this is part of an answer I posted in the C# forum.

              SELECT MIN(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MinID,
              MAX(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MaxID,
              [Fruit]
              FROM [#fruits]
              GROUP BY [Fruit]

              It would really nice if I could create a macro with the contents of the repeated code:

              substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))

              Something like this:

              declare @justNumeric MACRO =

              Which would reduce the first query to this:

              SELECT MIN(@justNumeric) AS MinID,
              MAX(@justNumeric) AS MaxID,
              [Fruit]
              FROM [#fruits]
              GROUP BY [Fruit

              This couldn't possibly have an adverse effect on SQL's error reporting incapabilities (Syntax error near ','), so I'm not concerned with that. Am I just an optimistic dreamer?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              It is nonsense to have a VARCHAR as primary key. SQL92 is all you need, this fancy stuff is just there to hide that the DBA doesn't know what he is doing. An abomination.

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                It is nonsense to have a VARCHAR as primary key. SQL92 is all you need, this fancy stuff is just there to hide that the DBA doesn't know what he is doing. An abomination.

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                Well, I assume the question I answered was a classroom or homework assignment, so you can't blame a DBA for what was required. In the interest of full disclosure, I did rant about the assignment, assignments like it, and the idiot instructors that come up with this crap, in my answer.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Well - there are functions, which can do this, sort of. But, I agree.   I work with a real DBA (who can program when necessary) and looking at some of his stored procedures and I would definitely go with MACROs to give my weary eyes and mind a rest.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  Functions slow queries down. Not a valid workaround. What I want is a simple way to replace repetitive code that always seems to be found SQL queries.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    ...if SQL had macro functionality (kinda like C++) that would help reduce the amount of repetitive bullcrap we have to deal with? For instance, this is part of an answer I posted in the C# forum.

                    SELECT MIN(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MinID,
                    MAX(substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))) AS MaxID,
                    [Fruit]
                    FROM [#fruits]
                    GROUP BY [Fruit]

                    It would really nice if I could create a macro with the contents of the repeated code:

                    substring([ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]), 1+PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', [ID]+'x')-PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', [ID]))

                    Something like this:

                    declare @justNumeric MACRO =

                    Which would reduce the first query to this:

                    SELECT MIN(@justNumeric) AS MinID,
                    MAX(@justNumeric) AS MaxID,
                    [Fruit]
                    FROM [#fruits]
                    GROUP BY [Fruit

                    This couldn't possibly have an adverse effect on SQL's error reporting incapabilities (Syntax error near ','), so I'm not concerned with that. Am I just an optimistic dreamer?

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Something like this, perhaps?

                    SELECT
                    MIN(N.JustNumeric) AS MinID,
                    MAX(N.JustNumeric) AS MaxID,
                    F.[Fruit]
                    FROM
                    [#fruits] As F
                    CROSS APPLY ( SELECT substring(F.[ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', F.[ID]), 1 + PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', F.[ID] + 'x') - PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', F.[ID])) ) As N (JustNumeric)
                    GROUP BY
                    F.[Fruit]
                    ;


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                      Functions significantly slow down queries. Not really a valid workaround, IMHO.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      As with everything, it depends How to Make Scalar UDFs Run Faster (SQL Spackle) - SQLServerCentral[^] It's still a butt ugly solution, but it ain't much slower.

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                        Something like this, perhaps?

                        SELECT
                        MIN(N.JustNumeric) AS MinID,
                        MAX(N.JustNumeric) AS MaxID,
                        F.[Fruit]
                        FROM
                        [#fruits] As F
                        CROSS APPLY ( SELECT substring(F.[ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', F.[ID]), 1 + PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', F.[ID] + 'x') - PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', F.[ID])) ) As N (JustNumeric)
                        GROUP BY
                        F.[Fruit]
                        ;


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                        That's just brilliant, if the plan looks like I hope it does it will open up quite a few possibilities for doing things I've sorely missed in SQL-Server.

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                          That's just brilliant, if the plan looks like I hope it does it will open up quite a few possibilities for doing things I've sorely missed in SQL-Server.

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                          The execution plan is identical to John's query. :)


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                            The execution plan is identical to John's query. :)


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                            I'm going to nest the query a few steps further, that's when it gets interesting. One of the things I've been sorely missing from Oracle is the 'Materialize' hint in CTEs.

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                              Something like this, perhaps?

                              SELECT
                              MIN(N.JustNumeric) AS MinID,
                              MAX(N.JustNumeric) AS MaxID,
                              F.[Fruit]
                              FROM
                              [#fruits] As F
                              CROSS APPLY ( SELECT substring(F.[ID], PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', F.[ID]), 1 + PATINDEX('%[0-9][^0-9]%', F.[ID] + 'x') - PATINDEX('%[0-9]%', F.[ID])) ) As N (JustNumeric)
                              GROUP BY
                              F.[Fruit]
                              ;


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                              Are you a wizard? :)

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                                Are you a wizard? :)

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                                I wish I could take credit, but the tip's been doing the rounds for many years now. :) Eg: Complex calculations using cross apply - by Kendra Little[^]


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                                  I wish I could take credit, but the tip's been doing the rounds for many years now. :) Eg: Complex calculations using cross apply - by Kendra Little[^]


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                                  Then you must be the Wizard of lOZt tips :-\

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                                    Are you a wizard? :)

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                                    Slacker007 wrote:

                                    Are you a wizard? :)

                                    No, but he did stay at a holiday inn express last night.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      The execution plan is identical to John's query. :)


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                                      Checked[^], it should be doable.

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                                        You could create .Net assembly for that C# code and call it in the SQL. My brain works. Hah!

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                                        Too dangerous. This exe compiles together with the server and if you mess-up you could kill the server. It happened to me. UDF's are absolutely valid approach in Oracle though. There the libraries written on Java or C++ live in a separate processes. The performance is good too.

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                                          Functions significantly slow down queries. Not really a valid workaround, IMHO.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          Scalar functions are performance killer if you have SQL (selects...) inside. In his case the optimizer commits suicide. But with pure mathematical operations their performance is okay.

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